diff --git a/rounding.scad b/rounding.scad
index d75f7efd..5b9d1381 100644
--- a/rounding.scad
+++ b/rounding.scad
@@ -2214,7 +2214,7 @@ module rounded_prism(bottom, top, joint_bot=0, joint_top=0, joint_sides=0, k_bot
   result = rounded_prism(bottom=bottom, top=top, joint_bot=joint_bot, joint_top=joint_top, joint_sides=joint_sides,
                          k_bot=k_bot, k_top=k_top, k_sides=k_sides, k=k, splinesteps=splinesteps, h=h, length=length, height=height, l=l,
                          debug=debug, _full_info=true);
-  height = one_defined([l,h,height,length], "l,h,height,length", dflt=u_add(bottom_height,top_height));
+  height = one_defined([l,h,height,length], "l,h,height,length", dflt=undef);
   top = is_undef(top) ? path3d(bottom,height/2) :
         len(top[0])==2 ? path3d(top,height/2) :
         top;
diff --git a/skin.scad b/skin.scad
index bce4e31e..6ba2c1e6 100644
--- a/skin.scad
+++ b/skin.scad
@@ -38,7 +38,11 @@
 //   2d curves with heights given in the `z` parameter.  It is your responsibility to ensure
 //   that the resulting polyhedron is free from self-intersections, which would make it invalid
 //   and can result in cryptic CGAL errors upon rendering with a second object present, even though the polyhedron appears
-//   OK during preview or when rendered by itself.
+//   OK during preview or when rendered by itself.  The order of points in your profiles must be
+//   consistent from slice to slice so that points match up without creating twists.  You can specify
+//   profiles in any consistent order: if necessary, skin() will reverse the faces to ensure that the final
+//   result has clockwise faces as required by CGAL.  Note that the face reversal test may give random results
+//   if you use skin to construct self-intersecting (invalid) polyhedra.  
 //   .
 //   For this operation to be well-defined, the profiles must all have the same vertex count and
 //   we must assume that profiles are aligned so that vertex `i` links to vertex `i` on all polygons.
@@ -502,10 +506,11 @@ function skin(profiles, slices, refine=1, method="direct", sampling, caps, close
                refine[i] * len(pair[0])
           )
           subdivide_and_slice(pair,slices[i], nsamples, method=sampling)],
-      vnf=vnf_join(
+      pvnf=vnf_join(
           [for(i=idx(full_list))
               vnf_vertex_array(full_list[i], cap1=i==0 && fullcaps[0], cap2=i==len(full_list)-1 && fullcaps[1],
-                               col_wrap=true, style=style)])
+                               col_wrap=true, style=style)]),
+      vnf = vnf_volume(pvnf)<0 ? vnf_reverse_faces(pvnf) : pvnf
   )
   reorient(anchor,spin,orient,vnf=vnf,p=vnf,extent=atype=="hull",cp=cp);