[UX] Ignore Proton - Experimental by default, but allow enabling it for advanced usage

[arielj]

This PR changes how we handle the Proton - Experimental option to run games.

We currently have a problem, that, for some users, Proton - Experimental might be the only wine/proton they have when they use Heroic for the first time and it gets assigned as a default game setting. From there, all their games ends up using Proton - Experimental with the risks that creates: it's experimental and not tested as much as stable versions, so an updated in steam without the user noticing it can break games in Heroic and it's hard to know what changed (users usually think nothing changed).

With this change, Proton - Experimental won't show up by default in the Wine Version selectors throughout the app, so inexperienced users can't select it by mistake and shouldn't be automatically selected by Heroic either (there's also this idea that, because it fixes many games, it's always better, so checking the option shows a warning for the user with some information about what experimental means).

For users that know what they are doing and want to be intentional about using Proton - Experimental, there's now a checkbox in Settings > Advances to stop ignoring it.

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[CommandMC]

Honestly I'd vote for ignoring all Proton versions found in that path by default (or at least everything non-GE-Proton). Regular Proton lacks Winetricks (and protonfixes as a whole), so you already lose a lot of games

[arielj]

Honestly I'd vote for ignoring all Proton versions found in that path by default (or at least everything non-GE-Proton). Regular Proton lacks Winetricks (and protonfixes as a whole), so you already lose a lot of games

I'm not against that, personally I just use whatever I can get with heroic, I don't know what users expect but I don't see the point of using stock proton when ge-proton exists haha

We still have the Add custom Wine/Proton Paths for people that wants those I guess?

[Etaash-mathamsetty]

Honestly I'd vote for ignoring all Proton versions found in that path by default (or at least everything non-GE-Proton). Regular Proton lacks Winetricks (and protonfixes as a whole), so you already lose a lot of games

I save storage by installing stuff to the steam compatibilitytools.d folder, so +1 for ignoring everything that's not GE-proton by default (instead of removing that directory from the search path completely)

[arielj]

Do you think the checkbox to enable those things is needed? I didn't want to remove things without having an option to have them back cause I imagine some users wanting that, but if there's no need for proton nor proton - experimental I wonder if we should just ignore them and that's it?

[arielj]

The main thing I want to avoid with this PR is users using something unstable by default or by mistake, but let them use experimental if they need to (would experimental have fixes before ge-proton for example that users may want to try?).

[Etaash-mathamsetty]

The main thing I want to avoid with this PR is users using something unstable by default or by mistake, but let them use experimental if they need to (would experimental have fixes before ge-proton for example that users may want to try?).

maybe add an option that allows showing all the proton versions (where it's off by default)

[gabriele2000]

I mean, Proton Experimental isn't so experimental... the real experimental thing is proton-experimental-bleeding-edge or something like that.

Proton experimental is just updated every few weeks, Proton stable, uh...

[Etaash-mathamsetty]

I mean, Proton Experimental isn't so experimental... the real experimental thing is proton-experimental-bleeding-edge or something like that.

Proton experimental is just updated every few weeks, Proton stable, uh...

proton experimental isn't recommended to be run with umu because it doesn't contain protonfixes + some other patches

[gabriele2000]

proton experimental isn't recommended to be run with umu because it doesn't contain protonfixes + some other patches

Then I suggest you to negate Proton Experimental only if UMU is enabled (enable UMU by default but let the user choose to disable it)

[arielj]

The changes here are aimed to the general user to not, by default, end with a setup that is not recommended (the second problem with experimental is that an update breaks something you can't easily rollback to the working version, but if using proton-ge-latest for example and an update breaks something you can easily change to another fixed version using the wine manager).

The intention of this is to prevent users who don't know what they are doing to use something they don't know how to handle properly. The option to continue using experimental and enable/disable umu as needed will be there for any user who wants to try that.

[gabriele2000]

The changes here are aimed to the general user to not, by default, end with a setup that is not recommended (the second problem with experimental is that an update breaks something you can't easily rollback to the working version, but if using proton-ge-latest for example and an update breaks something you can easily change to another fixed version using the wine manager).

The intention of this is to prevent users who don't know what they are doing to use something they don't know how to handle properly. The option to continue using experimental and enable/disable umu as needed will be there for any user who wants to try that.

Awesome, thanks for the clarification!