Call to Action! Prototype of Micropython Plugin NOVA is ready to challenge brave testers! #330
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This is wonderful! I'm a brave tester, so I'll do it if I must. It's a sacrifice I'm willing to take. I have a couple of comments/issues that I'd like to share. First off, I am able to normally use the REPL console, but every time there is some transfer of data, like pressing the "connect" button (the one that looks like a plug in the top left corner of the micropython window) or flashing a script, I get this error in the bottom left:
Additionally, the REPL console doesn't have the helpful message that explains how to reset the microcontroller with The File System tab isn't working for me at all:
Pressing connect doesn't do anything, and hitting the refresh button throws the same error in the previous picture. Lastly, I'm not sure if the issue is me, but when I use the web repl, it doesn't quite work:
I think that's all I've got. I am very grateful that this repo is getting some attention! Thanks a lot for putting this work in! I use this plugin all the time. |
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@gabemorris12 are you sure the plugin was upgraded? |
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It's upgraded. It has the pre-alpha4 in the name. I'll be here to try anything else. |
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@gabemorris12 Note: those logs may contain personal data, so please don't send me if you don't want to share that data, and send it me directly(we'll find a way), to keep the data personal. |
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I have emailed you the log file. This should help. |
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Thanks for the log, it looks like I caught that insect eventually, it's #333 |
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Looks like a great release! Looking forward to coding with it. Will make sure to report back with my feedback once I spend some time with the plugin! |
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I think the new approach of the plugin is great! I am very excited about the planned features. I encountered a problem while testing: When I start a new project, the settings under "Micropython" are not displayed and the plugin does not show any functionality. I get the same result when I uncheck "Enable MicroPython support". Currently, there is only one way to fix the problem: If I insert the following lines into the [project_name].iml file and save it, all settings are displayed and everything works fine. <component name="FacetManager">
<facet type="MicroPython" name="MicroPython" />
</component>System
PyCharm 2024.2.4 (Community Edition) Thank you very much for the great plugin and your work! |
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I have fixed this just today. Please update to 2.0.0.pre-alpha4-2024.2, attached to the topmost message here. |
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With 2.0.0.pre-alpha4-2024.2 it works! Thank you very much! |
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I have spent some time in the IDE with the updated plugin, and I have found a few bugs:
First few bugs I came across. Tested on ESP32 S2 Mini 2 running latest MicroPython 1.24.0 flashed with Thonny, the ESP8266 is selected as the used device type, used the Serial communication option, did not test WebREPL for any of the described bugs. Build #PY-242.23726.102, built on October 22, 2024 Besides this, I have to applaud your work - this plugin will make PyCharm the best IDE out there for MicroPython projects of all kinds, from simple to very complicated company projects. |
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Indeed, flashing certain files gives this error now "Upload files I/O error - Traceback (most recent call last): File " ", line 1 SyntaxError: invalid syntax Traceback (most recent call last): File " ", line 1 SyntaxError: invalid syntax"
Also causes it |
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I also get this error when deleting files if they contain the " ' " character - |
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One shall not fix bugs late night. Fixed again in pre-alpha6 |
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Haha, it happens to the best of us. Most of the bugs do seem fixed, I wasn't able to reproduce them with the pre-alpha6 version. I have gotten farther in flashing my project - now there seems to be an issue with uploading large files. "Upload files I/O error - Timeout during command execution:___f.write(b'\xdd\xcb>\x1c\xb3R\x1a\x88\xa4\xba\x01P \x89\xc31\xd8\xbf\xc2\xecHI\x06\xaa\x1a\xddK\x881m\x92i\x1dZ\n4G\x16\x98\x07\xe2\xfa\x8d\xa3>\xa2\xf5\x0c1\xddP\x19\xf1\xec\x89\r\xcb:u\x8e\x90p\xfc\xd0\x06:\x0e\xd1\xefm\xad\xd6>h')" The file in question is a ".js.gz" file with a size of 306KB. I have only tried to upload it with Serial communication option. If the time out has a set time for the files to upload and this is what causes the timeout errors, maybe a different approach to consider is specifically checking whether data is being transferred or not to determine if an actual time out has occurred. |
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Another thing is, it seems that if the connection to the device breaks under some unknown condition, it only happens on the background and the IDE does not disconnect - I don't have concrete steps to reproduce this. It usually happens if I flash files for long enough (repeatedly flashing - making changes, flashing, sending soft reset commands to REPL, rinse and repeat...). What happens is that I get an error that says something like this: "line 1 something "OS" error". This is very low priority, as just disconnecting and reconnecting fixes it, I have more so left this here so that you or others can be on the lookout for this error, maybe someone else might run into it and be able to figure out what exactly causes it. |
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I have another idea - from my experience WebREPL is not quite reliable for REPL terminal communication itself. Especially if I frequently develop on different STA Wi-Fi networks. Would you consider adding an option in the settings for choosing a separate way of communication for the file uploads and for the REPL terminal? For me it makes a lot of sense to stick with REPL terminal over serial due to its increased reliability - and the fact that I can use the serial REPL terminal for debugging WebREPL. And then use WebREPL solely for file uploads/flashing, because of the increased file transfer speed. |
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I've tested the latest pre-alpha 12, here are the bugs I found:
9. After uploading a subfolder from my source folders to test things I have randomly received the following error. I don't know if any specific file does it, haven't been able to pin point it to any. It only seems to happen with the folder. Possibly it might happen after uploading many files in a row. I also have a few suggestions for adjusting some of the File System and REPL view button names/descriptions. I would rename the description of the download button that pops-up on hover to something like "Download Item(s)" to make it more consistent with how the delete button description is written. Similarly I would capitalize the "New folder" description to "New Folder" and "Auto clear" to "Auto Clear REPL". The new download and new folder features seem to work flawlessly. I've also tested the bug where REPL gets cleaned after opening a file on the device file system, while it no longer does that, it will still print the "MicroPython v1.24.0 on 2024-10-25; Generic ESP32S2 module with ESP32S2 |
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Thanks for detailed reporting. Can you please hide screenshots and long stacktraces under spoilers next time? Otherwise the page looks very messy.
Suggested rewordings are done, |
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5.Screen.Recording.2024-11-18.at.20.49.39.mov
1 . Upload the file/directory directly to the File System root. And the problem you describe could be handled by graying out these options and perhaps adding another option underneath them, which would serve for letting the user know they have selected a conflicting combination. Or any other way possible with PyCharm GUI. Even just throwing an error if the upload is attempted by the user without graying out these buttons could be sufficient, albeit less user-friendly than the first way. |
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Hi all,
I'm just discovering the NOVA Work in Progress, but I didn't understand if this feature has been implemented or not. For me, serial REPL is absolutely mandatory, and I'd vore for it. My current setup is :
(I don't use WebREPL at all because I didn't really understand the philosophy behind it. I prefer using standard protocols such as Telnet and FTP, in the same way as for other platforms). Thank you in advance for your answers. |
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Many thanks to everyone for testing and for the feedback. |
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Just to know what to expect, alpha means plugin marketplace release? |
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We'll discuss that with @lancelote |
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Today I have tried the latest MicroPython plugin pre-alpha on the ESP32 S3 Lilygo display board, non-touch version. Two odd bugs happen a lot. I connect, flash a file, the device soft-reboots and I start interacting with the board through Microdot over wi-fi. Then after about 1-3 minutes I try to flash a new file, that times out, then I click the "Reset" button under "REPL". That throws the following: "Reset... error - SerialPortException: Port name - /dev/cu.usbmodem101; Method name - writeBytes; Exception type - Native exception occurred: Device not configured. jssc.SerialPortException: Port name - /dev/cu.usbmodem101; Method name - writeBytes; Exception type - Native exception occurred: Device not configured. Now the second bug has the same steps to reproduce but when I press reset or try to upload something, instead of the above mentioned error the REPL gets stuck in some loop printing the same output over and over followed by "Server error: <class 'OSError'>: [Errno 112] EADDRINUSE". This repeats and the REPL gets filled with tons of these. Right now it appears to be a coin toss between which of these bugs occurs. What I am running on the device is WiFi AP interface and Microdot. As mentioned the device is an ESP32 S3 Lilygo with display, non touch version. Plugin version is pre-alpha 9, PyCharm is EAP - Build #PY-243.21565.33, built on October 30, 2024 and I work with an M2 mac. |
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Seems to be some problems with boards UART. |
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May I ask what is Microdot and how does it interact with the board? Does it touch webrepl? |
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I am pretty sure I found the problem, seems to have been a mistake in my code, apologies for the false alarm. Microdot is Miguel Grinberg's compact MicroPython web server inspired by Flask. I deem it the best MicroPython web server around. |
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I just started learning python/micropython on the Raspberry Pi Pico using Pycharm upgraded to the latest version 243* and ran into the plugin out of date issue, so I maybe just not familiar with everything. I installed this alpha plug-in to try to continue. I noticed when I flash the project with the project root directory marked as the source or not, the flash process uploads the Project root directory into the root of the Pico filesystem as displayed in the MicroPython File System view. |
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I had a few problems with that, this approach worked flawlessly for me so I recommended it. |
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Possibly @Josverl would like to know what kind of problems you faced |
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@lukaskremla,
FWIW, I'm aware I'm lagging on releasing stubs for v1.24.x , hope to have these released in the next weeks. |
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I've actually first tried to download the stubs to PyCharm back when I started learning Python/MicroPython. I didn't understand a whole lot about the way things work in PyCharm and I tried to install to a typings folder without marking it as a source root, that didn't work of course. Since I was a beginner back then I just moved on to keep learning without stubs. Later when this pre-alpha was released and I came back to more actively using PyCharm and I saw elmot mention source folders and stubs in some context, so I set it up manually. That worked right away so I didn't even think about the pip installation being an option. So now looking at the docs again, the only suggestion that comes to mind is explicitly mentioning that PyCharm only checks for stubs in source roots, this is something that was unclear to me when I was a beginner and reading the docs now, it isn't explicitly mentioned in the PyCharm section. If I would've used the command mentioned in this section, that would've worked back then, but as I didn't see anything about source folders in the docs it didn't occur to me that it's a requirement. After your response here I thought about it again and I immediately realized why the command didn't work for me before. |
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Thanks, I'll try to clarify the documentation on that. |
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I'm trying it out on an ESP32 S3 and ESP32. Some comments and questions - trying to be helpful. |
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With a limited manpower we're focusing on the new one, rather on supporting the old plugin.
The board selector is about to be rewritten or thrown away completely. We're discussing a new, more universal approach in another discussion #336. However, you can use ESP8266 as a workaround for now. Stubs for both ESPs are quite similar. As an alternative, you can manually install official stub for your esp, as it discussed above here.
Can you please elaborate what what are you missing? What is your use case?
Unfortunately, at this moment latest pre-alfa has problems. I still did not accept latest PR from @lukaskremla, and probably right now it's not the best moment to try the stuff. I hope I am able to advance the version in a day or two.
Thanks, we're trying to |
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I find it hard to see what could be ambiguous about the behavior I would expect an IDE to exhibit. |
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Screen recordingScreen.Recording.2024-12-04.at.19.42.22.movWhat should be different? |
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That doesnt work for me :-( |
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Please wait until my changes are merged, if they are that is. I think I might've fixed a bug in the logic that could be causing what you described. |
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Ah! You didn't say you were changing things... Many thanks, it really is a simplification for beginners who regard seeing |
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In this version, once the project is created, there is no need to install micropython anymore, right? You can write programs and send files right away. |
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So it hangs on updating file system view? If you wait long enough (at most a minute) will you get some timeout error? |
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yes this video
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I was unable to replicate this issue. I currently don't have a Windows computer to test this on, so I can't rule out the possibility that this bug is somehow windows specific, maybe the maintainer will be able to assist with this hanging deletion bug. I've looked into the code where this issue could originate from, but I haven't found anything that would seem wrong. |
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Have new version update ? |
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Im not a pycharm user personally - but transferring a 0 bytes file is prone to errors ( and should be caught both by the IDE , and the user )
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Hello, I have read through various threads and understand there has been discussions with regards to stubs, flash selection algorithm etc. Q1: When I installed the plugin and startet at new project a folder "typings" where created, which I assume contains the stubs. Q2: I tried installing stubs for my esp32 board using : pip install -U micropython-stm32-stubs --target typings --no-user cheers! |
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I don't remember this pre-alpha version doing anything with typings folders. Maybe it was created by some other plugin or by you installing the stubs via pip? The algorithm for building the target paths is broken in the released version, the maintainer of this plugin is quite busy and I'm not sure if he'll be be able to fix it anytime soon. If you have the stubs installed in a folder in your project root, mark it blue as a source root and put a dot at the start of the name, then restart the IDE. It's been a while since I last used this plugin, so I'm not sure if the current algorithm will skip the leading dot file when flashing, but it's meant to do so. PyCharms language engine only checks source folders for stubs. |
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blush, obviously the "pip install " created the typings folder as you hinted. I didn't know pip install could go to the current folder so I oversaw it. I did rename the folder to .stubs and it is then ignored. Unfortunately the plugin dumps the full project structure, including project root. Hopefully that will be configurable in the future. Otherwise things works great, command completion and working history in REPL is nice :) |
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Hi, I'm still having some issues with flashing on a Mac. It's flashing the whole working directory instead of the one Gabe |
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Compatibility: PyCharm
2024.22024.3 EAPTested setups:
Features:
Please download, install, try, share your feedback with us!
Download: intellij-micropython-2.0.0.pre-alpha13-2024.3.zip
PS: How to install the plugin from disk
PPS: Webrepl setup manuals could be found here or here
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