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Calibrate against SOI statistics for filers with AGI below $10,000 #83

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nikhilwoodruff opened this issue Sep 25, 2024 · 2 comments
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We removed calibration of incomes and filer counts with AGI below 10k, but perhaps we should re-add them (but not trained).

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@MaxGhenis MaxGhenis changed the title Calibrate sub-standard deduction SOI statistics Calibrate against SOI statistics for filers with AGI below $10,000 Sep 25, 2024
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MaxGhenis commented Sep 25, 2024

Claude gave this example of a taxable return with S-corp income (one of the variables with higher aggregate in this slice) and AGI below $5k:


S Corporation Low AGI Taxable Return Scenario (Corrected)

Income and Deductions:

  1. W-2 Income: $1,500
  2. S Corporation Ordinary Business Income: $1,300
  3. Qualified Dividends: $2,000
  4. S Corporation Capital Gains (Separately Stated): $12,000

Calculations:

  1. AGI Calculation:

    • W-2 Income: $1,500
    • S Corp Ordinary Business Income: $1,300
    • Qualified Dividends: $2,000
    • AGI: $4,800
  2. Taxable Income Calculation:

    • AGI: $4,800
    • Capital Gains (not in AGI but taxable): $12,000
    • Minus Standard Deduction (2024 single filer): ($14,600)
    • Taxable Income: $2,200
  3. Tax Calculation:

    • Ordinary Income: $0 (all covered by standard deduction)
    • Long-term Capital Gains and Qualified Dividends: $2,200
    • Tax on Long-term Capital Gains and Qualified Dividends (0% rate up to $47,025 for single filer in 2024): $0
  4. Self-Employment Tax:

    • S Corp Ordinary Business Income: $1,300
    • Self-Employment Tax Rate: 15.3% (12.4% Social Security + 2.9% Medicare)
    • Self-Employment Tax: $1,300 * 0.9235 * 0.153 = $183.82
  5. Final Tax Liability:

    • Income Tax: $0
    • Self-Employment Tax: $183.82
    • Total Tax: $183.82

Key Points:

  • AGI is below $5,000 ($4,800)
  • Qualified dividends are correctly included in AGI
  • Taxable income is $2,200 after standard deduction
  • No regular income tax due to 0% rate on capital gains/qualified dividends at this income level
  • Self-employment tax creates a positive tax liability
  • Return is considered "taxable" by SOI definition (tax > $0)

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MaxGhenis commented Sep 25, 2024

o1-preview gave a different type of example, a dependent return:


Taxpayer Profile:

  • Name: Alex Smith
  • Age: 17 years old
  • Filing Status: Single, claimed as a dependent on parents' tax return.
  • Income Sources:
    • S-corp Income: $4,000 (reported on Schedule K-1)
    • Earned Income: $0

Detailed Explanation:

1. Income Calculation:

  • Total Income: $4,000 (All from S-corp income)
  • AGI: $4,000 (No adjustments)

2. Standard Deduction for Dependents:

Since Alex is a dependent, the standard deduction is limited to the greater of:

  • $1,250, or
  • Earned income ($0) + $400 = $400

Therefore, Alex's standard deduction is $1,250.

3. Taxable Income:

  • Taxable Income = AGI - Standard Deduction
  • Taxable Income = $4,000 - $1,250 = $2,750

4. Tax Liability Calculation:

Because Alex is under 18 and has unearned income over $2,500 (2023 threshold), the Kiddie Tax applies.

  • Net Unearned Income:

    • Unearned Income: $4,000
    • Subtract: $1,250 (Standard deduction for dependents)
    • Subtract: $1,250 (Additional threshold)
    • Net Unearned Income: $1,500
  • Tax on Net Unearned Income:

    • This $1,500 is taxed at the parents' marginal tax rate.
    • Assume parents' tax rate: 22%
    • Tax: $1,500 * 22% = $330
  • Tax on Remaining Income:

    • Taxable Income - Net Unearned Income = $2,750 - $1,500 = $1,250
    • This is taxed at Alex's rate.
    • Assuming 10% bracket: $1,250 * 10% = $125
  • Total Tax Liability:

    • $330 (Kiddie Tax) + $125 = $455

5. Final Summary:

  • AGI: $4,000
  • Taxable Income: $2,750
  • Total Tax Liability: $455
  • Positive Tax Liability with AGI below $5,000 and Positive S-corp Income

Conclusion:

Alex Smith, a 17-year-old dependent, has an AGI of $4,000 from S-corp income. After accounting for the limited standard deduction for dependents and applying the Kiddie Tax rules, Alex has a taxable income of $2,750 and a tax liability of $455.

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