Scope of funding section

[npch]

What do we see as the scope of the section on funding?

Is it:

1. Best practice from a funder's perspective, giving an overview of the different types of funding scheme implemented and how they are assessed
2. Best practice on funding scientific software from a PI / project manager's perspective, giving an overview of the different models of funding and examples of success and failure
3. Something else?

I'm able to lead on 2), contribute to 1) but not lead, and obviously don't know what 3) is yet!

[abani1]

Neil
if you take 2 I will try 1 and hopefully Dan will step in for that one too.

abani

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Neil Chue Hong notifications@github.com
wrote:

What do we see as the scope of the section on funding?

Is it:

Best practice from a funder's perspective, giving an overview of the
different types of funding scheme implemented and how they are assessed
2.

Best practice on funding scientific software from a PI / project
manager's perspective, giving an overview of the different models of
funding and examples of success and failure
3.

Something else?

I'm able to lead on 2), contribute to 1) but not lead, and obviously don't
know what 3) is yet!

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Abani Patra

[sandragesing]

I also would like to contribute here and suggest an additional topic.
3. One solution could be to have (similar to HPC teams, which are quite common) research programmer teams at universities, who can work on diverse projects. We have this model here at ND and the advantage is that they gain then more experience in diverse projects and can use synergistic effects for the projects when similar cyberinfrastructure is needed. It is a re-charge model - PIs don't have to employ further programmers in their team but can "rent out" manpower from these centralized teams, which could make sense for smaller projects.

[iliant]

Hi all,

I can help with 2) too.

Ilian

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Neil
if you take 2 I will try 1 and hopefully Dan will step in for that one too.

abani

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Neil Chue Hong notifications@github.com
wrote:

What do we see as the scope of the section on funding?

Is it:

Best practice from a funder's perspective, giving an overview of the
different types of funding scheme implemented and how they are assessed
2.

Best practice on funding scientific software from a PI / project
manager's perspective, giving an overview of the different models of
funding and examples of success and failure
3.

Something else?

I'm able to lead on 2), contribute to 1) but not lead, and obviously don't
know what 3) is yet!

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[iliant]

This is to acknowledge that 3)'s "rent out" concept already happens both in the EU and USA at government labs. At DL we Advance Performance Engineering group that is rented out. In the UK we have academic computational communities (www.ccp.ac.uk) that support work at government labs as well as universities.

Ilian

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I also would like to contribute here and suggest an additional topic.
3. One solution could be to have (similar to HPC teams, which are quite common) research programmer teams at universities, who can work on diverse projects. We have this model here at ND and the advantage is that they gain then more experience in diverse projects and can use synergistic effects for the projects when similar cyberinfrastructure is needed. It is a re-charge model - PIs don't have to employ further programmers in their team but can "rent out" manpower from these centralized teams, which could make sense for smaller projects.

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[danielskatz]

Yes, I can help with 1. I would also like to try to help with 2.

Dan

On May 24, 2016, at 8:23 AM, abani1 <notifications@github.commailto:notifications@github.com> wrote:

Neil
if you take 2 I will try 1 and hopefully Dan will step in for that one too.

abani

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Neil Chue Hong <notifications@github.commailto:notifications@github.com>
wrote:

What do we see as the scope of the section on funding?

Is it:

Best practice from a funder's perspective, giving an overview of the
different types of funding scheme implemented and how they are assessed
2.

Best practice on funding scientific software from a PI / project
manager's perspective, giving an overview of the different models of
funding and examples of success and failure
3.

Something else?

I'm able to lead on 2), contribute to 1) but not lead, and obviously don't
know what 3) is yet!

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