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#! rnews 1312
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!strath-cs!jml
From: jml@cs.strath.ac.uk (Joseph McLean)
Newsgroups: sci.math
Subject: the extendability of digit sequences into primes
Message-ID: <753@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk>
Date: 2 Dec 87 10:36:33 GMT
Reply-To: jml@cs.strath.ac.uk (Joseph McLean)
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Scotland.
Lines: 19
Is the following conjecture reasonable and/or provable? :
Given a sequence of digits, starting with a non-zero digit, of arbitrary
but finite length, is it always possible to extend this sequence by
appending more digits, in such a way as to form a prime?
e.g. the sequence 1 can be extended into a prime in an infinite number
of ways, as in 13, 17, 19, 101, 1231, 1579, etc (there an infinite
number of primes beginning with a 1 by Bertrand's postulate).
However, it is far more difficult to try and locate a prime which
starts with the sequence 1528296922945708 (although at least one is known).
My personal opinion is that the conjecture is reasonable, simply because
one can keep adding digits at the end and checking for primality ad
infinitum, and the law of averages will do the rest. Of course this is
totally groundless mathematically, so can anyone provide a heuristic
argument with more weight?
jml, the mad mathematician.
#! rnews 3077
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!husc6!psuvax1!burdvax!bigburd!fritzson
From: fritzson@bigburd.PRC.Unisys.COM (Richard Fritzson)
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: Re: lisp environments (Structure vs. text editors)
Message-ID: <3375@bigburd.PRC.Unisys.COM>
Date: 14 Dec 87 02:11:18 GMT
References: <487@PT.CS.CMU.EDU> <460@cresswell.quintus.UUCP> <499@PT.CS.CMU.EDU>
Sender: news@bigburd.PRC.Unisys.COM
Organization: Unisys Corporation, Paoli Research Center; Paoli, PA
Lines: 56
In article <499@PT.CS.CMU.EDU> ralphw@IUS2.CS.CMU.EDU (Ralph Hyre) writes:
>In article <460@cresswell.quintus.UUCP> pds@quintus.UUCP (Peter Schachte) writes:
>>Text editors CANNOT simulate structure editors. They can do a rather
>>feeble job of it. Text editors fall down when context information is
>
>I disagree - a PROGRAMMABLE text editor can do anything you want. This is
>because it's programmable. Whether you're happy with the performance or a
Sure it can do anything. The best way for a programmable text editor to
simulate a structure editor would be for it to build an internal
representation (or structure) or what was really being edited and then
use its text manipulating primitives to show the user the effect of his
editing commands on the structure that is "really" being edited. Now you've
shown that mocklisp (for example) is a language in which you can implement
a structure editor. I doubt if it is the best way to do it though.
>>...For example: a structure editor can supply different commands, different
>>facilities, for editing comments and code.
>Seems like there's the potential here for moby modefulness. I can't see
>why I would want different commands when I edit code compared with comments.
I don't know about "commands", but Common Lisp comments are nothing
like Common Lisp code (much to the shame of Common Lisp). I want the
characters I type in as comments treated differently than those I type in
as parts of S-expressions.
>My interest is in an pseudo-WYSIWYG editor which gives you the option
>of entering/editing text without formatting attributes, then optionally
>displaying the text with them. <...>This sort of decoupling between editing a
>document and a representation of a document could even be used to great
>advantage in many environments:
You're right. An editor which is really editing the structure underlying
the visual presentation of it IS a useful thing.
> A program code editor might actually be showing you variable names,
> statements, and S-expressions while it is really writing the P-code
> (or .lbin file) on the fly.
> This could result in 'instant' language interpreter facilities and
> fast compilers.
> [I admit that this might be hairy to program in MockLisp.]
But it is one of the reasons Xerox structure editor fans are fans.
>[disclaimer: I've never used a 'structure editor'
No offense intended, but I could tell. If you write any Lisp you should
look for an opportunity to try SEdit on a D-machine.
--
-Rich Fritzson
ARPA: fritzson@prc.unisys.com
UUCP: {sdcrdcf,psuvax1,cbmvax}!burdvax!fritzson
#! rnews 3135
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!umd5!ames!sdcsvax!sdcc6!loral!dml
From: dml@loral.UUCP (Dave Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Live Action Amber Films
Summary: Use Zelazny's descriptions!
Message-ID: <1496@loral.UUCP>
Date: 14 Dec 87 06:41:04 GMT
References: <349@morningdew.BBN.COM> <2620001@hpcvlx.HP.COM>
Reply-To: dml@loral.UUCP (Dave Lewis)
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Distribution: na
Organization: Loral Instrumentation, San Diego
Lines: 59
In article <2620001@hpcvlx.HP.COM> markc@hpcvlx.HP.COM (Mark Cook) writes:
>>/ hpcvlx:rec.arts.movies / dkovar@lf-server-2.BBN.COM (David Kovar) / 7:07 am Dec 9, 1987 /
>>
>> Well, someone else was wondering who would be the actors in a Tolkien
>>film which brought to mind a favorite question of mine from a few years
>>back: Who would play the parts of a Amber film? I used to have the
>>Corwin: Mel Gibson
Jonathan Pryce. From "Something Wicked This Way Comes".
> even better, how about Timothy Dalton (James Bond isn't the only thing he
>>Brand: (Who's the guy from Kiss who was in Runaway?)
> You mean Gene Simmons. Well, he could play the part but he has to look like
No way. Brand is "a figure both like Bleys and myself. My features, though
smaller, my eyes, Bleys' hair. There was a quality of both strength and weak-
ness, questing and abandonment about him." This is Corwin speaking, of course.
And Bleys is "a fiery bearded, flame-crowned man, dressed all in red and
orange, mainly of silk stuff, and he held a sword in his right hand and a
glass of wine in his left, and the devil himself danced behind his eyes, as
blue as Flora's, or Eric's. His chin was slight, but the beard covered it."
I can't think of anyone offhand for either part, but I nominate Gene Simmons
to play Caine: "Then came the swarthy, dark-eyed countenance of Caine, dressed
all in satin that was black and green, wearing a dark three-cornered hat set
at a rakish angle, a green plume of feathers trailing down the back." (Yeah,
I got "Nine Princes in Amber" lying right next to the keyboard here)
Random: "a wily-looking little man, with a sharp nose and a laughing mouth
and a shock of straw-colored hair." How about Dudley Moore (with his hair
bleached, of course).
Dierdre: "a black-haired girl with [Flora's] blue eyes, and her hair hung
long and she was dressed all in black, with a girdle of silver about her
waist." Lee Meriwether or Kate Jackson.
Fiona: "with hair like Bleys or Brand, [Corwin's] eyes, and a complexion
like mother of pearl. Ann-Margret!
That's all for now; if people are interested I can type in the whole 2-1/2
pages of descriptions so we'll REALLY have something to argue over.
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Dave Lewis Loral Instrumentation San Diego
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"I'm alive and he's dead and that's the way I wanted it."
-- Corwin, about Borel
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#! rnews 2421
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!strath-cs!jim
From: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.headers
Subject: Re: RFC976 vs. the real world...
Message-ID: <754@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk>
Date: 2 Dec 87 12:51:51 GMT
References: <18533@amdahl.amdahl.com>
Reply-To: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Scotland.
Lines: 40
In article <18533@amdahl.amdahl.com> tron@uts.amdahl.com (Ronald S. Karr) writes:
>Some Introduction:
>However, we have conflicting ideas concerning what to do with sender
>addresses in headers. We do, now, support the idea that a pure !-path
>coming in can be left as a !-path, with the current hostname prepended
>(this is optional and is a function of the destination). However,
>should I ever produce, in mail originated locally, a From: line in the
>following form?
>
> From: localhost!username
The answer is perhaps. In an ideal world, everyone will adhere to one
standard for mail headers - RFC822 possibly, but X.400 is more likely.
Until that glorious day arrives (if it ever does), mailers at the mail
'gateways' between networks will have little option but to munge
addresses because of incompatible mail headers and addressing formats.
What you mail system should do is rewrite mail headers into the
appropriate form for transmission to a given host. In short, if your
uucp neighbours only understand bang-style addresses, you mailer should
only present bang-style paths to these sites. If some sites understand
RFC822 (user@host.domain), then you should send them RFC822 style mail.
What would be less easy for the mailer is separating your bang-stlye
uucp neighbours from those who understand RFC822.
The best mailers (MMDF or sendmail - no flames please!) take an input
address, convert it to a canonical form and then rewrite the address in
the appropriate style for the message transfer agent. This is the most
sensible way of dealing with hybrid addresses like A!B@C. [Does that
mean send by uucp to A for relaying to user B on host C or does it mean
send to C for them to relay to user B on uucp host A? Then what if C
(or A) doesn't like addresses with '!' (or '@') signs in them?]
Jim
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"JANET domain ordering is swapped around so's there'd be some use for rev(1)!"
#! rnews 3873
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!umd5!ames!sdcsvax!sdcc6!loral!dml
From: dml@loral.UUCP (Dave Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf-lovers
Subject: Re: One more long-gone show
Summary: What S. F. movies should be
Keywords: Questor
Message-ID: <1497@loral.UUCP>
Date: 14 Dec 87 06:45:22 GMT
References: <1672@bsu-cs.UUCP>
Reply-To: dml@loral.UUCP (Dave Lewis)
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf-lovers
Distribution: na
Organization: Loral Instrumentation, San Diego
Lines: 64
In article <1672@bsu-cs.UUCP> cfchiesa@bsu-cs.UUCP (Christopher F. Chiesa) writes:
>Anyone remember a movie called _The_Questor_Tapes_ ? Basic premise: gov't
>project constructs an android according to eccentric scientist's specs; and-
>C.Chiesa
Yea, verily, I recall The Questor Tapes. I've forgotten the scientist's
name, but he was a very rich and secretive genius known for several major
advances in robotics and cybernetics. About 2 years previous to the start
of the movie, he had disappeared, leaving only a partially completed project
he called Questor. Much of the work was complete, including a small fusion
reactor, most of the brain, and a lot of the support machinery. He also left
a BIG mag tape of programs, which some government idiot had partially erased
while trying to decode it. Questor, when activated, did nothing; the team
that assembled him figured it was because of the bad tape.
Late that night, Questor got up, used the 'finishing' molds to give himself
human features, and walked out. The scientist had known one member of the
Questor-assembly team and put his name and address on the program tape; by
good fortune it had survived the attempted decoding. Questor knows only that
he must find `a boat' -- other details have been erased.
The government catches up with them in a playground and some fool shoots
Questor. Apparently the shock knocks some bits loose because when he sees
a jungle gym that looks like Noah's Ark he remembers, "the boat, the boat
of legend. [whatsisname] is waiting for me there." He also remembers that
if he doesn't find the scientist within about two days, his fusion power
supply is programmed to overload and blow up.
They patch him up and he leads them a merry chase to Mt. Ararat where he
finds his creator in a cave hidden by a force barrier/hologram projection.
There is a long row of metallic slabs suspended about a meter above the
floor; on each lies a defunct robot. Each one wears clothing from a time
far earlier than the next. Questor's creator lies on the second to last
slab, still conscious but unable to move.
These robots have been watching over the human race for more than ten
thousand years. Each one lasts two hundred years, then builds his successor.
Questor's predecessor was brought to an early end by some combination of
pollution and radiation exposure; he has provided Questor with extra
shielding so he will last the full two centuries.
Questor is the last. By the end of his term, the human race will have
reached a point where we can make our own decisions without guidance.
The robots were placed here by some advanced aliens to see us through our
racial childhood, to allow us a chance to mature and achieve whatever
potential we have.
The Questor Tapes was an excellent movie, one makers of more recent films
should take a lesson from. Very few other movies have impressed me as much
as "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "The Questor Tapes". They show up the likes
of"Close Encounters of the Third Kind" and "E.T." for the vapid silliness
they are.
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Dave Lewis Loral Instrumentation San Diego
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#! rnews 1384
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!its63b!hwcs!jack
From: jack@cs.hw.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf-lovers
Subject: Re: M. John Harrison
Message-ID: <1560@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk>
Date: 2 Dec 87 18:20:17 GMT
References: <1950@charon.unm.edu>
Reply-To: jack@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: PISA Project, Glesga Yoonie
Lines: 23
Summary:
Expires:
Sender:
Followup-To:
[ignore the above address and use my signature]
By far the best thing I have read by MJH is a long short story called
"Running Down", about a man with unwanted psychic powers that cause things
to malfunction, decay and fall apart around him. It is set in a Britain
in the near future of when the story was written (i.e. about now) in which
the whole society reflects a similar dingy, pointless chaos - remarkably
like Britain after 8 years of Thatcher, in fact.
He's very good at describing that sort of situation - his novel "The Centauri
Device" does it at length, though his suggested political solution is bloody
stupid. His understanding of anarchism is about on a level with Robert Anton
Wilson's.
- jack
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Mail: Jack Campin, Computing Science Department, University of Glasgow,
17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8QQ, Scotland (041 339 8855 x 6045)
#! rnews 1188
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!its63b!hwcs!jack
From: jack@cs.hw.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Tippett
Message-ID: <1561@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk>
Date: 2 Dec 87 18:38:20 GMT
References: <1950@bath63.ux63.bath.ac.uk>
Reply-To: jack@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: PISA Project, Glesga Yoonie
Lines: 15
Summary:
Expires:
Sender:
Followup-To:
[ignore the above email address and use my signature]
Tippett moved on a LONG way musically after "A Child Of Our Time".
I believe his masterpiece is the Triple Concerto for violin, viola and cello.
There is a wonderful recording of it by Pauk, Imai and Kirschbaum with the LSO
under Davis.
A problem I find with a lot of his music is the silly words. The man really
shouldn't have tried writing his own libretti that often.
I believe he's got another opera in the pipeline, due for its premiere in the
next few months.
--
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Mail: Jack Campin, Computing Science Department, University of Glasgow,
17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8QQ, Scotland (041 339 8855 x 6045)
#! rnews 894
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!eagle!jg
From: jg@eagle.ukc.ac.uk (J.Grant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: The Spinning watch cursor
Message-ID: <4023@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 87 14:59:09 GMT
Reply-To: jg@ukc.ac.uk (J.Grant)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.
Lines: 11
OK - I've changed my spinning watch back into the lovely sand-timer
(remember the good old days?); I've changed the CURS resource in the
Finder and also in the System so that I have various quantities
of sand in the top & bottom, but there is still a watch lurking!
More precisely, where does the watch that says 9 o'clock live, as
now I get the magic watch followed by the sand1->7, then the watch
again as the cycle repeats. This only happens in the Finder, so I
suspect that there must be a watch lurking elsewhere, but where?
Ps. system 4.2b(5?) & Finder 6.0 (Mac 512Ke)
#! rnews 3539
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!its63b!csnjr
From: csnjr@its63b.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers
Subject: Casio MG500, Roland MT-32, MIDI bug? [LONG]
Summary: Where's the MIDI bug in this lot?:
Keywords: MG500 MT-32 MIDI
Message-ID: <805@its63b.ed.ac.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 87 13:10:56 GMT
Reply-To: nick%ed.lfcs@uk.ac.ucl.cs.nss (Nick Rothwell)
Organization: LFCS, University of Edinburgh
Lines: 46
Xref: alberta rec.music.synth:1879 rec.music.makers:1070
Last weekend a friend and I strolled into a music shop and ended up playing
with the new Casio MG500 MIDI guitar linked into a Roland MT-32. I don't
play guitar, and was just along for the curiosity, but I've got a few comments
to make and a question about what I consider to be a MIDI bug in one of the
instruments.
Firstly - the performance of the MG500. I wasn't actually playing it (I was
just pushing buttons on the MT-32 instead), but I was impressed with its
speed and tracking ability - it was fast and followed pitch accurately,
responding to pitch bend and so on; it generally sounded pretty tight.
There were a couple of things I didn't like - but maybe it's a generic
weakness of all guitar-to-MIDI systems. Firstly, the guitar transmits
velocity information (hit the string harder -> louder/brighter note), but
gives no control (other than pitch-bend) once a note's sounding - there's
nothing equivalent to aftertouch/modulation so once a note sounds you're
at the mercy of the synth until you stop the string.
Point two - You've got six strings, so you can only sound six synth voices.
This is probably obvious, but playing a guitar patch through MIDI doesn't
sound like a real guitar, because each touch of a string retriggers the voice
on that string, sometimes in a rather distracting way. On a real (classical)
guitar you have the resonance of the soundbox to hang on to notes so you
aren't aware of this (I presume - comments?)
Now for what is (in my opinion) a MIDI Bug! Play two different notes on
two strings and you get two voices - ok so far. Play the same note on two
different strings and you get one voice. Humm. Play two different notes on
two strings and slide one note up to the other, and one of the voices is
chopped off. I think this is a bug - something somewhere doesn't want to
the same note more than once. Needless to say, this completely screws up
a number of guitar chords.
We mentioned this to the guy in the shop. He seemed convinced that it's
a problem with the MIDI spec. itself - if you play a keyboard synth, you
have to release the middle C key to play it again, don't you? I think this
is a load of dingos kidneys - if I send my D-50 two separate middle C
note on messages, then I'll get two voices cycling through the envelopes at
middle C pitch. This is what happens with the sustain pedal on, as well.
What's the verdict, net people? I think the guy was wrong (quite adamant,
but wrong...) and there's a bug in one of the boxes. I suspect the MG500.
If the MT-32 is anything like the D-50, then it doesn't care about playing
the same note twice. (A quick note in passing that synths with less voices
(Juno106 for instance) often won't double a voice, in an attempt to play
chords properly without running out.)
--
Nick Rothwell, Laboratory for Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh.
nick%lfcs.ed.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk
<Atlantic Ocean>!mcvax!ukc!lfcs!nick
~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~
"Nothing's forgotten. Nothing is ever forgotten." - Herne
#! rnews 1505
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!bath63!pes
From: pes@ux63.bath.ac.uk (Smee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Resource file question
Keywords: resource mwc rcs .rsc dri c
Message-ID: <1963@bath63.ux63.bath.ac.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 87 10:33:26 GMT
References: <1592@wiley.UUCP>
Reply-To: pes@ux63.bath.ac.uk (Smee)
Organization: AUCC c/o University of Bath
Lines: 19
You might try looking to see if K-Resource is still available (by Kuma Software,
who else?). It's been out a long while. It's now available bundled with some
of the MetaComCo stuff (in particular the new Lattice C) but I believe that
Kuma still do it separately as well. Don't have a clue what it costs, but
must be cheaper than a new compiler.
It produces (by switch option) appropriate 'include' type files for C,
FORTRAN, and 2 other languages which I've conveniently forgotten -- in
addition to the expected .RSC file. Will also produce a 'non-specific
structured description' file (they say, I've never tried this) which is
alleged to be pretty easy to massage into an appropriate 'include' for
any unsupported language you might like.
The documentation is written in a bit of a 'too-folksy' style for my liking,
but the program is pretty intuitive to use which makes up for some of that.
It does, however, assume that you have some sort of a clue as to what the
various resource items/flags mean and do -- it doesn't teach you how to use
RSC files or what they mean, but rather gives a handle for making them.
#! rnews 1258
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!its63b!hwcs!neil
From: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Bug in bets test Gulam
Keywords: none
Message-ID: <1562@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 87 09:46:32 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Heriot-Watt U., Scotland
Lines: 28
I think I have found a bug in the latest version of Gulam.
alias test 'echo $<'
produces a couple of spurious charcters on the input line.
$<%&
The characters are usually above $80. The alpha version didn't do this.
I just delete them by backspacing anyway.
echo $<
by itself works fine.
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#! rnews 1009
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!its63b!hwcs!jack
From: jack@cs.hw.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: how strong of a magnet?
Message-ID: <1564@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 87 18:59:42 GMT
References: <9554@shemp.UCLA.EDU>
Reply-To: jack@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: PISA Project, Glesga Yoonie
Lines: 12
Summary:
Expires:
Sender:
Followup-To:
[ignore the above email address and use my signature]
This may be an FOAF story (urban folklore) but I have heard that the mag-lev
train at Birmingham Airport lets enough field into the passenger compartment
to wipe floppies.
Then again, I have also heard that story about ordinary underground railways
and it certainly isn't true of them.
--
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JANET:jack@uk.ac.glasgow.cs USENET: ...mcvax!ukc!cs.glasgow.ac.uk!jack
Mail: Jack Campin, Computing Science Department, University of Glasgow,
17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8QQ, Scotland (041 339 8855 x 6045)
#! rnews 988
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!its63b!csan
From: csan@its63b.ed.ac.uk (Andie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Resource file question
Keywords: Kuma
Message-ID: <808@its63b.ed.ac.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 87 23:08:12 GMT
References: <1592@wiley.UUCP> <1298@saturn.ucsc.edu>
Reply-To: csan@its63b.ed.ac.uk (Andie)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Edinburgh University
Lines: 14
In article <1298@saturn.ucsc.edu> koreth@ssyx.ucsc.edu (Steven Grimm) writes:
>
>Kuma Software makes the best resource editor I've seen. It's called
>"K-Resource" and is a really friendly, well-thought-out piece of software.
>
I am in total agreement here. I use it in preference to any others I have.
Andie Ness . Department of Computer Science ,Edinburgh University.
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JANET: csan@uk.ac.ed.itspna
% These are my own views and any resemblance to any coherent reasoning is
% probably a typo.
#! rnews 852
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!stc!idec!howellg
From: howellg@idec.stc.co.uk (Gareth Howell)
Newsgroups: rec.ham-radio.packet,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: NEEDED: KISS for TNC220
Message-ID: <869@idec.stc.co.uk>
Date: 1 Dec 87 09:05:59 GMT
Organization: ICL Network Systems, Stevenage, Herts. UK
Lines: 12
Xref: alberta rec.ham-radio.packet:767 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:1918
I have a Pacomm TNC220 on which I want to run KISS and thence the KA9Q
tcp/ip package. Unfortunately I don't have a KISS for the TNC.
Can anybody help. I would prefer the co-resident bootstrap with a
downloaded KISS module if possible.
ta Gareth
====
--
Gareth Howell <howellg@idec.stc.co.uk> G6KVK @ IO91VX
ICL NS PNBC, England, SG1 1YB Tel:+44 (0)438 738294
howellg%idec%ukc@mcvax.uucp, mcvax!ukc!idec!howellg@uunet.uu.net
G6KVK @ G4SPV (uk packet 144.650MHz)
#! rnews 710
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!stc!hilda
From: hilda@tcom.stc.co.uk ( Jeff Tracey )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf-lovers
Subject: Thunderbirds are GO!!!
Keywords: FAB
Message-ID: <1503@arran.tcom.stc.co.uk>
Date: 2 Dec 87 10:54:39 GMT
Organization: STC Telecoms, London N11 1HB.
Lines: 14
A few quick trivia questions on Thunderbirds :-
1) Does anybody know what the phrase 'FAB' stands for ???
2) What's the first mission that International Rescue accomplished ?
3) What's the Butler's name on the Island AND who is his daughter ?
Regards,
Steve Hillyer. <hilda@tcom.stc.co.uk> || ...uunet!mcvax!ukc!stc!hilda
STC Telecommunications, Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB.
Phone : +44 1 368 1234 x3358
#! rnews 1159
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!stc!btnix!crouch
From: crouch@btnix.axion.bt.co.uk (Chris Rouch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: callable TPU?
Keywords: TPU callable editor
Message-ID: <632@btnix.axion.bt.co.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 87 11:33:58 GMT
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs, Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH, UK
Lines: 17
I read somewhere that there is a callable version of EDT, available by using
EDT$EDIT(...). Does anyone know if there is a similar function for the TPU
editor and/or other commands such as MAIL, PRINT etc. If somebody could
also point me in the direction of the VMS manual which contains this
information (assuming there is one), I would be very grateful.
Chris Rouch
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desk to desk RT3124, 310 SSTF,
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voice to voice +44 473 646093
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#! rnews 1090
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!stc!pete
From: pete@tcom.stc.co.uk (Peter Kendell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Durufle virgin seeks advice
Message-ID: <483@stc-f.tcom.stc.co.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 87 11:50:35 GMT
Organization: STC Telecoms, London N11 1HB.
Lines: 25
Being curious, as the name was completely new to me, I borrowed
the Hyperion CD of Durufle's Requiem from my local public
library. I enjoyed it very much and would like to find out more
about him, so :-
- What else has he written? (I believe he's not been very prolific)
- What else has been recorded?
- Is his other work similar to the Requiem; it is better, worse or
just different?
- I thought I heard a Holst influence; is this typical?
- Are there other 20th Century composers in a similar vein that I
should try?
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#! rnews 1235
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!stc!praxis!gauss!drb
From: drb@praxis.co.uk (David Brownbridge)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: //host vs "mount point"
Message-ID: <1606@newton.praxis.co.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 87 12:42:36 GMT
References: <648@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <1668@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <38c15248.4580@hi-csc.UUCP> <9559@mimsy.UUCP> <411@PT.CS.CMU.EDU>
Sender: nobody@praxis.co.uk
Reply-To: drb%praxis.uucp@ukc.ac.uk(David Brownbridge)
Organization: Praxis Systems plc, Bath, UK
Lines: 19
In article <411@PT.CS.CMU.EDU> jgm@K.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (John Myers) writes:
>Just to add to the confusion, let me put in a plug in for the Carnegie-Mellon
>University Computer Science Department's syntax:
>
>/../host
We built a system which also allowed super-super-roots and so on ad infinitum.
/../NearbyHost
/../../OtherSite/host
/../../../OtherCountry/AnotherSite/host
"/.." makes sense to me which is why I promoted it as the "University of
Newcastle upon Tyne Computing Laboratory's syntax" :-) Some old-timers must
remember the "Newcastle Connection" distributed UNIX system which Lindsay
Marshall and I wrote in 1981-2.
"Not for the iron fist but for the helping hand"
[Billy Bragg/Oyster Band "Between The Wars"]
#! rnews 1785
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!stc!datlog!slxsys!jpp
From: jpp@slxsys.specialix.co.uk (John Pettitt)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix
Subject: Re: smail2.5
Summary: smail on xenix without writing new programs
Keywords: At last, a 'real' mailer for Xenix (are you listening SCO) :-)
Message-ID: <106@slxsys.specialix.co.uk>
Date: 3 Dec 87 06:44:07 GMT
References: <484@rel.eds.com>
Reply-To: jpp@slxsys.UUCP (John Pettitt)
Organization: Specialix International, London, UK.
Lines: 27
In article <484@rel.eds.com> bob@rel.eds.com (Bob Leffler) writes:
>During the last several weeks there have been numerous solutions posted to
>the net to resolved the interface problem with Xenix and smail 2.5. I
>have tried all the solutions that I am aware of and my conclusion for the
>best approach is a combination of two.
lots of stuff about how to install smail deleted.
I have just installed smail 2.5 on Xenix 386. The solution I used
here was to replace /usr/lib/mail/execmail with a link to (copy of)
/bin/smail. I also moved the old sco execmail to execmail.sco and used
it as the local delivery agent. The above will not work as it stands
because the command syntax for execmail is not the same as smail. This
can be corrected by swapping the meaning of the -F and -f switches in
smail (main.c and defs.h). The local delivery macro in defs.h should
be set to give /usr/lib/mail/execmail.com -f from to. With this
setup you get the sco mailer (mailx) and smail with both From and From:
lines correct. Also as execmail is still used for 'local' delivery
micnet (sco's RS232 "LAN") still works.
--
John Pettitt G6KCQ, CIX jpettitt, Voice +44 1 398 9422
UUCP: ...uunet!mcvax!ukc!pyrltd!slxsys!jpp (jpp@slxsys.co.uk)
Disclaimer: I don't even own a cat to share my views !
#! rnews 1287
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!lambert
From: lambert@cwi.nl (Lambert Meertens)
Newsgroups: sci.math
Subject: Re: Least-squares fitting
Message-ID: <135@piring.cwi.nl>
Date: 5 Dec 87 14:41:10 GMT
References: <1823@culdev1.UUCP>
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam
Lines: 28
In article <1823@culdev1.UUCP> drw@culdev1.UUCP (Dale Worley) writes:
) Is is known how to perform least-squares fitting where the "error" is
) the perpendicular distance between the point and the line?
This least-squares fit still passes through the "center of gravity" of the
data points, so assume that the data has been reduced such that the
averages of the x- and y-coordinates are both zero. Let the equation of
the line to be determined be
x*(sin phi) - y*(cos phi) = 0,
that is, it is the line making an angle phi with the x-axis. Put
XX = SUM_i x[i]^2,
XY = SUM_i x[i]*y[i],
YY = SUM_i y[i]^2.
Then tan(2*phi) = 2*XY/(XX-YY).
This gives two solutions for phi. Take the one such that the point
(XX-YY, 2*XY) lies on the ray through the origin with angle 2*phi.
(Remark. It is possible to solve the coefficients for x and y
algebraically, without going through the arctan routine, but it is harder
then to get the signs correct.)
--
Lambert Meertens, CWI, Amsterdam; lambert@cwi.nl
#! rnews 852
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!inria!imag!bordier
From: bordier@imag.UUCP (Jerome Bordier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Arabic Wordprocessing / Publishing
Message-ID: <2285@imag.UUCP>
Date: 4 Dec 87 10:24:35 GMT
Reply-To: bordier@imag.UUCP (Jerome Bordier)
Organization: IMAG, University of Grenoble, France
Lines: 14
"Winsoft", a small firm developping and selling software for the Macintosh,
has made "Wintext", a word processor fully compatible with the "Arabic
Macintosh+" (you have to obtain the Arabic keyboard distributed by Apple).
Their address is:
Winsoft
34 boulevard de l'Esplanade
38000 GRENOBLE France
Phone no.: 76.87.56.01
--
Jerome BORDIER Laboratoire Structures Discretes Institut IMAG
B.P.68 - 38402 SAINT MARTIN D'HERES CEDEX France
E.Mail:
bordier@imag.imag.fr or {uunet.uu.net|mcvax}!imag!bordier
#! rnews 1182
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!inria!rouaix
From: rouaix@inria.UUCP (Francois Rouaix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: POPCLI III Another Bug
Keywords: left-amiga-esc timing
Message-ID: <587@inria.UUCP>
Date: 5 Dec 87 17:45:19 GMT
Organization: INRIA, Rocquencourt. France
Lines: 20
Well, it seems there is another bug in Popcli III.
Just try
1> run popcli 30
and then press Left-Amiga-Esc: the drive (where c: is) spins for
a moment and nothing happens.
The new 'screen-blanker' works all right but the automatic launch
is defeated.
Same for values of 10 and 40 seconds.
I didn't have time to figure out the limit value for which Popcli will
work (it works with default value and 240s).
Anyway, despite I *love* the new feature (let's keep the secret :-),
I'd rather have the old screen-blanker : at least I can sleep while
the Amiga is still on and working, and also it won't eat CPU-time I
need for Ray-tracing !!
--
*- Francois Rouaix / When the going gets tough, *
*- USENET:rouaix@inria.inria.fr \/ the guru goes meditating...*
* SYSOP of Sgt. Flam's Lonely Amigas Club. (33) (1) 39-55-84-59 (Videotext) *
#! rnews 539
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!husc6!uwvax!rutgers!lll-lcc!ames!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!ncr-sd!crash!pnet01!hhaller
From: hhaller@pnet01.cts.com (Harry Haller)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Facsimile on PC
Message-ID: <2140@crash.cts.com>
Date: 14 Dec 87 04:36:13 GMT
Sender: news@crash.cts.com
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon, CA
Lines: 4
There is a board you can plug into the backplane that purports to give you
full FAX capability with editing. Of course, I forget the name, but if you
look in the literature...
()
#! rnews 1436
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!husc6!uwvax!rutgers!lll-lcc!ames!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!ncr-sd!crash!pnet01!dm
From: dm@pnet01.cts.com (Dan Melson)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: ARSA transition phraseology
Message-ID: <2141@crash.cts.com>
Date: 14 Dec 87 06:16:11 GMT
Sender: news@crash.cts.com
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon, CA
Lines: 21
The question was asked why an ARSA controller might want to know your
destination.
Actually, what they really want to know is where you're going *now*, like
'direct PMD' or 'following I5 northbound' (I have *no* idea of what type of
airspace that will take you through at any given altitude) or whatever course,
heading, or whatever you intend to take through the ARSA.
Now, if you're going to get flight following, the controller is going to want
to know your complete route of flight for which you want flight following,
so that it can be entered into the machine and the autumated handoffs can be
used between sectors and facilities.
As for why, that's very simple. For purposes of calling traffic, which I
consider to be sufficient, if no one else does. The same reason the
controller at the VFR tower asks your direction of departure. If nothing
else, the controller can always tell the left downwind departures 'traffic a
(whatever) reported 6 SE for a left base entry', or whatever is appropriate.
MY opinions ONLY!
DM
#! rnews 2759
Path: alberta!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!diku!iesd!jacob
From: jacob@iesd.uucp (Jacob stergaard B{kke)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: job search, Comp. eng.
Summary: I'm looking for a job
Keywords: Job, Computer. eng., Computer. sci., M.S.
Message-ID: <152@iesd.uucp>
Date: 2 Dec 87 13:20:07 GMT
Reply-To: jacob@iesd.UUCP (Jacob \stergaard B{kke)
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Aalborg University, Denmark (student)
Lines: 69
I'm looking for a job in Computer Engineering to begin around July
1988. I'm getting my Master of Science in Computer Engineering June
1988 and at present holding a degree equal to BS in Electronic
Engineering. My BS studies have included:
Computer hardware (hands-on knowledge with mc68k),
Analog electronic
Control engineering (analog and digital control)
My MS studies have included:
Software development (man-machine interface, what people want
from programs)
Compiler construction (an expertsystem shell)
Program environment (for CCS programming)
Distributed operating systems (in UNIX)
Compiler mapping object-orinted language on parallel computers
Furthermore I do have experience in conventional programming (PASCAL,
C, postscript, UNIX (awk, shell-scripts(C-shell) and yacc/lex) (and Basic)),
functional programming (LISP and ML) and logical programming (Prolog)
and knowledge about object-oriented programming. And I
have also attended courses in VLSI design, databases, etc. I have been
working with CDC under NOS/Telex, VAX 11/750 under Ultrix, SUN 3 under
Sun OS 4.3 (UNIX), MacIntosh (LISA) under Finder and IBM S36 under IBM
property operating system.
My spoken English is excellent and my written English is satisfactory,
good knowledge of the Scandinavian languages (Danish (of course),
Swedish and Norwegian), some speaking and reading knowledge of German
and limited knowledge of French and Spanish (and Latin).
I have 5 years experience in group project work in engineering and
computer scinence areas, broad social interest, good health.
My interest include computer hardware and software, operating system
design, expertsystems, distributed, concurrency and teaching.
I'm open on location (outside Denmark) but I have relatives or other
reasons to be especially intereted in:
Canada (British Colombia or Toronto)
USA (New England or Pacific Coast)
Pacific (New Zealand or Oceania)
Thailand
Scotland (Highlands)
I'll look forward to any reponds.
Yours sincerely
Jacob Baekke, Denmark
For further information:
Reply to: jacob@iesd.uucp, {...}!mcvax!diku!ised!jacob or
at Univ: Jacob Baekke
S9D (in spring S10)
Strandvejen 19
AUC
DK--9000 Aalborg
Denmark
private: Jacob Baekke
Davids Alle 48
DK--9000 Aalborg