mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info

[FNavidad]

Describe the bug
Caris version 12.1.1 outputs a GSF file from the new sensors EM124, EM712 & EM2040MK2 .KMALL raw files using HIPS to GSF.

MB-System Supported Swath Data Formats
The MBSYSTEM process to create the mbinfo .inf is running mbformat 121 and does not account for KMALL GSFs.

I use MBSystem command = f'mbinfo -F{format_code} -I' + os.path.join(inpath, file) + ' -O -V'
eg. mbinfo -F121 -{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf} -O{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf}.inf

To Reproduce
Provide information sufficient to reproduce the behavior:

1. Make relevant data samples available via ftp, Dropbox, Google Drive, or other means.
2. Provide complete copies of shell commands and shell output.
3. If the problem involves interactive applications like mbgrdviz, describe any relevant sequence of GUI actions.

Expected behavior
I run the HIPS to GSF process with .ALL files processed in HDCS and then can run mbinfo -F121 and i get information.
I run the HIPS to GSF process with .KMALL files processed in HDCS and then run mbinfo F-121 and get zero information!

GSF FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output from Caris v12.1.1

Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf
MBIO Data Format ID: 121
Format name: MBF_GSFGENMB
Informal Description: Leidos Generic Sensor Format (GSF) version GSF-v03.09
Attributes: variable beams, bathymetry and amplitude,
binary, single files, Leidos (formerly SAIC).

Data Totals:
Number of Records: 0
Bathymetry Data (0 beams):
Number of Beams: 0
Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00%
Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00%
Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00%
Amplitude Data (0 beams):
Number of Beams: 0
Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00%
Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00%
Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00%
Sidescan Data (0 pixels):
Number of Pixels: 0
Number of Good Pixels: 0 0.00%
Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00%
Number of Flagged Pixels: 0 0.00%

Navigation Totals:
Total Time: 0.0000 hours
Total Track Length: 0.0000 km
Average Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots)

Start of Data:
Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000)
Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters
Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees
Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m

End of Data:
Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000)
Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters
Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees
Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m

Limits:
Minimum Longitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Longitude: 0.000000000
Minimum Latitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Latitude: 0.000000000
Minimum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Sonar Depth: 0.0000
Minimum Altitude: 0.0000 Maximum Altitude: 0.0000
Minimum Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Depth: 0.0000
Minimum Amplitude: 0.0000 Maximum Amplitude: 0.0000
Minimum Sidescan: 0.0000 Maximum Sidescan: 0.0000

RAW FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output is ok

Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.kmall
MBIO Data Format ID: 261
Format name: MBF_KEMKMALL
Informal Description: Kongsberg multibeam echosounder system kmall datagram format
Attributes: Kongsberg fourth generation multibeam sonars (EM2040, EM712,
EM304, EM124), bathymetry, amplitude, backscatter, variable beams,
binary datagrams, Kongsberg.

Data Totals:
Number of Records: 300
Bathymetry Data (1600 beams):
Number of Beams: 480000
Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56%
Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44%
Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00%
Amplitude Data (1600 beams):
Number of Beams: 480000
Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56%
Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44%
Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00%
Sidescan Data (2048 pixels):
Number of Pixels: 614400
Number of Good Pixels: 570180 92.80%
Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00%
Number of Flagged Pixels: 44220 7.20%

Navigation Totals:
Total Time: 0.4623 hours
Total Track Length: 5.8357 km
Average Speed: 12.6227 km/hr ( 6.8231 knots)

Start of Data:
Time: 05 02 2025 15:16:53.444336 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:16:53.444336)
Lon: 143.592433536 Lat: -40.866254411 Depth: 1381.2194 meters
Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 266.7220 degrees
Sonar Depth: 7.5801 m Sonar Altitude: 1203.0162 m

End of Data:
Time: 05 02 2025 15:44:37.795826 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:44:37.795826)
Lon: 143.525040491 Lat: -40.873951908 Depth: 1563.0197 meters
Speed: 0.0594 km/hr ( 0.0321 knots) Heading: 349.7916 degrees
Sonar Depth: 8.3357 m Sonar Altitude: 1503.2841 m

Limits:
Minimum Longitude: 143.493896143 Maximum Longitude: 143.593819066
Minimum Latitude: -40.899720712 Maximum Latitude: -40.848229304
Minimum Sonar Depth: 4.9799 Maximum Sonar Depth: 9.6619
Minimum Altitude: 1203.0162 Maximum Altitude: 1503.2841
Minimum Depth: 1090.1481 Maximum Depth: 1655.1562
Minimum Amplitude: -61.3398 Maximum Amplitude: 9.1113
Minimum Sidescan: -80.9000 Maximum Sidescan: 2.9000

Computing context (please complete the following information):

• OS: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS
• MB-System version 5.8.1
• Caris version 12.1.1

[dwcaress]

Fnavidad, MB-System was updated to use the current GSF library (version 3.11) with release 5.8.2.beta23 on June 25, 2025. Please try the current MB-System release 5.8.3beta03. Also please provide us access to an example problem GSF file. Cheers, Dave On Sep 9, 2025, at 6:31 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad created an issue (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529> Describe the bug Caris version 12.1.1 outputs a GSF file from the new sensors EM124, EM712 & EM2040MK2 .KMALL raw files using HIPS to GSF. MB-System Supported Swath Data Formats The MBSYSTEM process to create the mbinfo .inf is running mbformat 121 and does not account for KMALL GSFs. I use MBSystem command = f'mbinfo -F{format_code} -I' + os.path.join(inpath, file) + ' -O -V' eg. mbinfo -F121 -{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf} -O{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf}.inf To Reproduce Provide information sufficient to reproduce the behavior: 1. Make relevant data samples available via ftp, Dropbox, Google Drive, or other means. 2. Provide complete copies of shell commands and shell output. 3. If the problem involves interactive applications like mbgrdviz, describe any relevant sequence of GUI actions. Expected behavior I run the HIPS to GSF process with .ALL files processed in HDCS and then can run mbinfo -F121 and i get information. I run the HIPS to GSF process with .KMALL files processed in HDCS and then run mbinfo F-121 and get zero information! GSF FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output from Caris v12.1.1 Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf MBIO Data Format ID: 121 Format name: MBF_GSFGENMB Informal Description: Leidos Generic Sensor Format (GSF) version GSF-v03.09 Attributes: variable beams, bathymetry and amplitude, binary, single files, Leidos (formerly SAIC). Data Totals: Number of Records: 0 Bathymetry Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (0 pixels): Number of Pixels: 0 Number of Good Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 0 0.00% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.0000 hours Total Track Length: 0.0000 km Average Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Start of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m End of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Longitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Latitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Latitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Altitude: 0.0000 Maximum Altitude: 0.0000 Minimum Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Amplitude: 0.0000 Maximum Amplitude: 0.0000 Minimum Sidescan: 0.0000 Maximum Sidescan: 0.0000 RAW FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output is ok Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.kmall MBIO Data Format ID: 261 Format name: MBF_KEMKMALL Informal Description: Kongsberg multibeam echosounder system kmall datagram format Attributes: Kongsberg fourth generation multibeam sonars (EM2040, EM712, EM304, EM124), bathymetry, amplitude, backscatter, variable beams, binary datagrams, Kongsberg. Data Totals: Number of Records: 300 Bathymetry Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (2048 pixels): Number of Pixels: 614400 Number of Good Pixels: 570180 92.80% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 44220 7.20% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.4623 hours Total Track Length: 5.8357 km Average Speed: 12.6227 km/hr ( 6.8231 knots) Start of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:16:53.444336 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:16:53.444336) Lon: 143.592433536 Lat: -40.866254411 Depth: 1381.2194 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 266.7220 degrees Sonar Depth: 7.5801 m Sonar Altitude: 1203.0162 m End of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:44:37.795826 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:44:37.795826) Lon: 143.525040491 Lat: -40.873951908 Depth: 1563.0197 meters Speed: 0.0594 km/hr ( 0.0321 knots) Heading: 349.7916 degrees Sonar Depth: 8.3357 m Sonar Altitude: 1503.2841 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 143.493896143 Maximum Longitude: 143.593819066 Minimum Latitude: -40.899720712 Maximum Latitude: -40.848229304 Minimum Sonar Depth: 4.9799 Maximum Sonar Depth: 9.6619 Minimum Altitude: 1203.0162 Maximum Altitude: 1503.2841 Minimum Depth: 1090.1481 Maximum Depth: 1655.1562 Minimum Amplitude: -61.3398 Maximum Amplitude: 9.1113 Minimum Sidescan: -80.9000 Maximum Sidescan: 2.9000 Computing context (please complete the following information): * OS: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS * MB-System version 5.8.1 * Caris version 12.1.1 — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#1529>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABTSXXB32EZKYT4IELJ4DFD3R6EPJAVCNFSM6AAAAACGCVXDUCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43ASLTON2WKOZTGQYDANRUG44TGNY>. 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---------------------------------------------------- David W. Caress Principal Engineer Seafloor Mapping Lab Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute 7700 Sandholdt Road Moss Landing, CA 95039 ***@***.*** https://www.mbari.org/person/dave-caress/ https://www.mbari.org/team/seafloor-mapping/ Phone: 831-775-1775

[FNavidad]

Thanks David, I don’t think it’s an issue with GSF version per se…more that I’m creating a GSF from the .kmall files. Attached is an example of the GSF and .inf file from MBSYSTEM. Attached is an FTP link to download the example files. ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem Instructions for Public parties to access data....suggest you use WinSCP or filezilla. ***@***.*** Kind Regards, Francisco Navidad Spatial Data Manager Geophysical Survey & Mapping | Engineering & Technology | NCMI | CSIRO ***@***.******@***.***> | +61 3 6232 5514 | +61 467 512 210 Castray Esplanade, Hobart, TAS 7001 GPO Box 1538 CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land, sea and waters, of the area that we live and work on across Australia. We acknowledge their continuing connection to their culture and we pay our respects to their Elders past and present. The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged. Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender by return email. Thank you. To the extent permitted by law, CSIRO does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained or that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Please consider the environment before printing this email. CSIRO National Collections and Marine Infrastructure | csiro.au<https://my.csiro.au/OrgInfo/Structure/Support/CorpAffairs/What-we-do/Brand-and-Marketing/www.csiro.au> From: David Caress ***@***.***> Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2025 1:11 PM To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***>; Author ***@***.***> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.******@***.***>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6761436?s=20&v=4]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Fnavidad, MB-System was updated to use the current GSF library (version 3.11) with release 5.8.2.beta23 on June 25, 2025. Please try the current MB-System release 5.8.3beta03. Also please provide us access to an example problem GSF file. Cheers, Dave On Sep 9, 2025, at 6:31 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad created an issue (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529> Describe the bug Caris version 12.1.1 outputs a GSF file from the new sensors EM124, EM712 & EM2040MK2 .KMALL raw files using HIPS to GSF. MB-System Supported Swath Data Formats The MBSYSTEM process to create the mbinfo .inf is running mbformat 121 and does not account for KMALL GSFs. I use MBSystem command = f'mbinfo -F{format_code} -I' + os.path.join(inpath, file) + ' -O -V' eg. mbinfo -F121 -{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf} -O{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf}.inf To Reproduce Provide information sufficient to reproduce the behavior: 1. Make relevant data samples available via ftp, Dropbox, Google Drive, or other means. 2. Provide complete copies of shell commands and shell output. 3. If the problem involves interactive applications like mbgrdviz, describe any relevant sequence of GUI actions. Expected behavior I run the HIPS to GSF process with .ALL files processed in HDCS and then can run mbinfo -F121 and i get information. I run the HIPS to GSF process with .KMALL files processed in HDCS and then run mbinfo F-121 and get zero information! GSF FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output from Caris v12.1.1 Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf MBIO Data Format ID: 121 Format name: MBF_GSFGENMB Informal Description: Leidos Generic Sensor Format (GSF) version GSF-v03.09 Attributes: variable beams, bathymetry and amplitude, binary, single files, Leidos (formerly SAIC). Data Totals: Number of Records: 0 Bathymetry Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (0 pixels): Number of Pixels: 0 Number of Good Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 0 0.00% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.0000 hours Total Track Length: 0.0000 km Average Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Start of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m End of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Longitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Latitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Latitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Altitude: 0.0000 Maximum Altitude: 0.0000 Minimum Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Amplitude: 0.0000 Maximum Amplitude: 0.0000 Minimum Sidescan: 0.0000 Maximum Sidescan: 0.0000 RAW FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output is ok Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.kmall MBIO Data Format ID: 261 Format name: MBF_KEMKMALL Informal Description: Kongsberg multibeam echosounder system kmall datagram format Attributes: Kongsberg fourth generation multibeam sonars (EM2040, EM712, EM304, EM124), bathymetry, amplitude, backscatter, variable beams, binary datagrams, Kongsberg. Data Totals: Number of Records: 300 Bathymetry Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (2048 pixels): Number of Pixels: 614400 Number of Good Pixels: 570180 92.80% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 44220 7.20% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.4623 hours Total Track Length: 5.8357 km Average Speed: 12.6227 km/hr ( 6.8231 knots) Start of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:16:53.444336 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:16:53.444336) Lon: 143.592433536 Lat: -40.866254411 Depth: 1381.2194 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 266.7220 degrees Sonar Depth: 7.5801 m Sonar Altitude: 1203.0162 m End of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:44:37.795826 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:44:37.795826) Lon: 143.525040491 Lat: -40.873951908 Depth: 1563.0197 meters Speed: 0.0594 km/hr ( 0.0321 knots) Heading: 349.7916 degrees Sonar Depth: 8.3357 m Sonar Altitude: 1503.2841 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 143.493896143 Maximum Longitude: 143.593819066 Minimum Latitude: -40.899720712 Maximum Latitude: -40.848229304 Minimum Sonar Depth: 4.9799 Maximum Sonar Depth: 9.6619 Minimum Altitude: 1203.0162 Maximum Altitude: 1503.2841 Minimum Depth: 1090.1481 Maximum Depth: 1655.1562 Minimum Amplitude: -61.3398 Maximum Amplitude: 9.1113 Minimum Sidescan: -80.9000 Maximum Sidescan: 2.9000 Computing context (please complete the following information): * OS: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS * MB-System version 5.8.1 * Caris version 12.1.1 — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#1529>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABTSXXB32EZKYT4IELJ4DFD3R6EPJAVCNFSM6AAAAACGCVXDUCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43ASLTON2WKOZTGQYDANRUG44TGNY>. 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[dwcaress]

Francisco, I don’t find the link. What shows up in the email and in the Github interface is: ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem Cheers, Dave On Sep 10, 2025, at 10:16 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Thanks David, I don’t think it’s an issue with GSF version per se…more that I’m creating a GSF from the .kmall files. Attached is an example of the GSF and .inf file from MBSYSTEM. Attached is an FTP link to download the example files. ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem Instructions for Public parties to access data....suggest you use WinSCP or filezilla. ***@***.*** Kind Regards, Francisco Navidad Spatial Data Manager Geophysical Survey & Mapping | Engineering & Technology | NCMI | CSIRO ***@***.******@***.***> | +61 3 6232 5514 | +61 467 512 210 Castray Esplanade, Hobart, TAS 7001 GPO Box 1538 CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land, sea and waters, of the area that we live and work on across Australia. We acknowledge their continuing connection to their culture and we pay our respects to their Elders past and present. The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged. Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender by return email. Thank you. To the extent permitted by law, CSIRO does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained or that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Please consider the environment before printing this email. CSIRO National Collections and Marine Infrastructure | csiro.au<https://my.csiro.au/OrgInfo/Structure/Support/CorpAffairs/What-we-do/Brand-and-Marketing/www.csiro.au> From: David Caress ***@***.***> Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2025 1:11 PM To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***>; Author ***@***.***> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.******@***.***>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6761436?s=20&v=4]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Fnavidad, MB-System was updated to use the current GSF library (version 3.11) with release 5.8.2.beta23 on June 25, 2025. Please try the current MB-System release 5.8.3beta03. Also please provide us access to an example problem GSF file. Cheers, Dave On Sep 9, 2025, at 6:31 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad created an issue (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529> Describe the bug Caris version 12.1.1 outputs a GSF file from the new sensors EM124, EM712 & EM2040MK2 .KMALL raw files using HIPS to GSF. MB-System Supported Swath Data Formats The MBSYSTEM process to create the mbinfo .inf is running mbformat 121 and does not account for KMALL GSFs. I use MBSystem command = f'mbinfo -F{format_code} -I' + os.path.join(inpath, file) + ' -O -V' eg. mbinfo -F121 -{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf} -O{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf}.inf To Reproduce Provide information sufficient to reproduce the behavior: 1. Make relevant data samples available via ftp, Dropbox, Google Drive, or other means. 2. Provide complete copies of shell commands and shell output. 3. If the problem involves interactive applications like mbgrdviz, describe any relevant sequence of GUI actions. Expected behavior I run the HIPS to GSF process with .ALL files processed in HDCS and then can run mbinfo -F121 and i get information. I run the HIPS to GSF process with .KMALL files processed in HDCS and then run mbinfo F-121 and get zero information! GSF FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output from Caris v12.1.1 Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf MBIO Data Format ID: 121 Format name: MBF_GSFGENMB Informal Description: Leidos Generic Sensor Format (GSF) version GSF-v03.09 Attributes: variable beams, bathymetry and amplitude, binary, single files, Leidos (formerly SAIC). Data Totals: Number of Records: 0 Bathymetry Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (0 pixels): Number of Pixels: 0 Number of Good Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 0 0.00% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.0000 hours Total Track Length: 0.0000 km Average Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Start of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m End of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Longitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Latitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Latitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Altitude: 0.0000 Maximum Altitude: 0.0000 Minimum Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Amplitude: 0.0000 Maximum Amplitude: 0.0000 Minimum Sidescan: 0.0000 Maximum Sidescan: 0.0000 RAW FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output is ok Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.kmall MBIO Data Format ID: 261 Format name: MBF_KEMKMALL Informal Description: Kongsberg multibeam echosounder system kmall datagram format Attributes: Kongsberg fourth generation multibeam sonars (EM2040, EM712, EM304, EM124), bathymetry, amplitude, backscatter, variable beams, binary datagrams, Kongsberg. Data Totals: Number of Records: 300 Bathymetry Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (2048 pixels): Number of Pixels: 614400 Number of Good Pixels: 570180 92.80% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 44220 7.20% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.4623 hours Total Track Length: 5.8357 km Average Speed: 12.6227 km/hr ( 6.8231 knots) Start of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:16:53.444336 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:16:53.444336) Lon: 143.592433536 Lat: -40.866254411 Depth: 1381.2194 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 266.7220 degrees Sonar Depth: 7.5801 m Sonar Altitude: 1203.0162 m End of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:44:37.795826 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:44:37.795826) Lon: 143.525040491 Lat: -40.873951908 Depth: 1563.0197 meters Speed: 0.0594 km/hr ( 0.0321 knots) Heading: 349.7916 degrees Sonar Depth: 8.3357 m Sonar Altitude: 1503.2841 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 143.493896143 Maximum Longitude: 143.593819066 Minimum Latitude: -40.899720712 Maximum Latitude: -40.848229304 Minimum Sonar Depth: 4.9799 Maximum Sonar Depth: 9.6619 Minimum Altitude: 1203.0162 Maximum Altitude: 1503.2841 Minimum Depth: 1090.1481 Maximum Depth: 1655.1562 Minimum Amplitude: -61.3398 Maximum Amplitude: 9.1113 Minimum Sidescan: -80.9000 Maximum Sidescan: 2.9000 Computing context (please complete the following information): * OS: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS * MB-System version 5.8.1 * Caris version 12.1.1 — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#1529>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABTSXXB32EZKYT4IELJ4DFD3R6EPJAVCNFSM6AAAAACGCVXDUCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43ASLTON2WKOZTGQYDANRUG44TGNY>. 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[FNavidad]

Hi David, I apologise for that, I can only see a link on my side, perhaps it’s a security thing to stop links coming through. ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem try ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem Kind Regards, Francisco Navidad Spatial Data Manager Geophysical Survey & Mapping | Engineering & Technology | NCMI | CSIRO ***@***.******@***.***> | +61 3 6232 5514 | +61 467 512 210 Castray Esplanade, Hobart, TAS 7001 GPO Box 1538 CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land, sea and waters, of the area that we live and work on across Australia. We acknowledge their continuing connection to their culture and we pay our respects to their Elders past and present. The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged. Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender by return email. Thank you. To the extent permitted by law, CSIRO does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained or that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Please consider the environment before printing this email. CSIRO National Collections and Marine Infrastructure | csiro.au<https://my.csiro.au/OrgInfo/Structure/Support/CorpAffairs/What-we-do/Brand-and-Marketing/www.csiro.au> From: David Caress ***@***.***> Sent: Friday, 12 September 2025 2:12 AM To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***>; Author ***@***.***> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.*** Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [Image removed by sender.]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Francisco, I don’t find the link. What shows up in the email and in the Github interface is: ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem Cheers, Dave On Sep 10, 2025, at 10:16 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Thanks David, I don’t think it’s an issue with GSF version per se…more that I’m creating a GSF from the .kmall files. Attached is an example of the GSF and .inf file from MBSYSTEM. Attached is an FTP link to download the example files. ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem Instructions for Public parties to access data....suggest you use WinSCP or filezilla. ***@***.*** Kind Regards, Francisco Navidad Spatial Data Manager Geophysical Survey & Mapping | Engineering & Technology | NCMI | CSIRO ***@***.******@***.***> | +61 3 6232 5514 | +61 467 512 210 Castray Esplanade, Hobart, TAS 7001 GPO Box 1538 CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land, sea and waters, of the area that we live and work on across Australia. We acknowledge their continuing connection to their culture and we pay our respects to their Elders past and present. The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged. Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender by return email. Thank you. To the extent permitted by law, CSIRO does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained or that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Please consider the environment before printing this email. CSIRO National Collections and Marine Infrastructure | csiro.au<https://my.csiro.au/OrgInfo/Structure/Support/CorpAffairs/What-we-do/Brand-and-Marketing/www.csiro.au> From: David Caress ***@***.***> Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2025 1:11 PM To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***>; Author ***@***.***> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.******@***.***>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6761436?s=20&v=4]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Fnavidad, MB-System was updated to use the current GSF library (version 3.11) with release 5.8.2.beta23 on June 25, 2025. Please try the current MB-System release 5.8.3beta03. Also please provide us access to an example problem GSF file. Cheers, Dave On Sep 9, 2025, at 6:31 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad created an issue (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529> Describe the bug Caris version 12.1.1 outputs a GSF file from the new sensors EM124, EM712 & EM2040MK2 .KMALL raw files using HIPS to GSF. MB-System Supported Swath Data Formats The MBSYSTEM process to create the mbinfo .inf is running mbformat 121 and does not account for KMALL GSFs. I use MBSystem command = f'mbinfo -F{format_code} -I' + os.path.join(inpath, file) + ' -O -V' eg. mbinfo -F121 -{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf} -O{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf}.inf To Reproduce Provide information sufficient to reproduce the behavior: 1. Make relevant data samples available via ftp, Dropbox, Google Drive, or other means. 2. Provide complete copies of shell commands and shell output. 3. If the problem involves interactive applications like mbgrdviz, describe any relevant sequence of GUI actions. Expected behavior I run the HIPS to GSF process with .ALL files processed in HDCS and then can run mbinfo -F121 and i get information. I run the HIPS to GSF process with .KMALL files processed in HDCS and then run mbinfo F-121 and get zero information! GSF FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output from Caris v12.1.1 Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf MBIO Data Format ID: 121 Format name: MBF_GSFGENMB Informal Description: Leidos Generic Sensor Format (GSF) version GSF-v03.09 Attributes: variable beams, bathymetry and amplitude, binary, single files, Leidos (formerly SAIC). Data Totals: Number of Records: 0 Bathymetry Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (0 pixels): Number of Pixels: 0 Number of Good Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 0 0.00% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.0000 hours Total Track Length: 0.0000 km Average Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Start of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m End of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Longitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Latitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Latitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Altitude: 0.0000 Maximum Altitude: 0.0000 Minimum Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Amplitude: 0.0000 Maximum Amplitude: 0.0000 Minimum Sidescan: 0.0000 Maximum Sidescan: 0.0000 RAW FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output is ok Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.kmall MBIO Data Format ID: 261 Format name: MBF_KEMKMALL Informal Description: Kongsberg multibeam echosounder system kmall datagram format Attributes: Kongsberg fourth generation multibeam sonars (EM2040, EM712, EM304, EM124), bathymetry, amplitude, backscatter, variable beams, binary datagrams, Kongsberg. Data Totals: Number of Records: 300 Bathymetry Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (2048 pixels): Number of Pixels: 614400 Number of Good Pixels: 570180 92.80% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 44220 7.20% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.4623 hours Total Track Length: 5.8357 km Average Speed: 12.6227 km/hr ( 6.8231 knots) Start of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:16:53.444336 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:16:53.444336) Lon: 143.592433536 Lat: -40.866254411 Depth: 1381.2194 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 266.7220 degrees Sonar Depth: 7.5801 m Sonar Altitude: 1203.0162 m End of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:44:37.795826 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:44:37.795826) Lon: 143.525040491 Lat: -40.873951908 Depth: 1563.0197 meters Speed: 0.0594 km/hr ( 0.0321 knots) Heading: 349.7916 degrees Sonar Depth: 8.3357 m Sonar Altitude: 1503.2841 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 143.493896143 Maximum Longitude: 143.593819066 Minimum Latitude: -40.899720712 Maximum Latitude: -40.848229304 Minimum Sonar Depth: 4.9799 Maximum Sonar Depth: 9.6619 Minimum Altitude: 1203.0162 Maximum Altitude: 1503.2841 Minimum Depth: 1090.1481 Maximum Depth: 1655.1562 Minimum Amplitude: -61.3398 Maximum Amplitude: 9.1113 Minimum Sidescan: -80.9000 Maximum Sidescan: 2.9000 Computing context (please complete the following information): * OS: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS * MB-System version 5.8.1 * Caris version 12.1.1 — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#1529>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABTSXXB32EZKYT4IELJ4DFD3R6EPJAVCNFSM6AAAAACGCVXDUCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43ASLTON2WKOZTGQYDANRUG44TGNY>. 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[FNavidad]

***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem ftp : // anonymous @ ftp . csiro . au / GSM / MBsystem (take all the spaces away) above Kind Regards, Francisco Navidad Spatial Data Manager Geophysical Survey & Mapping | Engineering & Technology | NCMI | CSIRO ***@***.******@***.***> | +61 3 6232 5514 | +61 467 512 210 Castray Esplanade, Hobart, TAS 7001 GPO Box 1538 CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land, sea and waters, of the area that we live and work on across Australia. We acknowledge their continuing connection to their culture and we pay our respects to their Elders past and present. The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged. Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender by return email. Thank you. To the extent permitted by law, CSIRO does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained or that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Please consider the environment before printing this email. CSIRO National Collections and Marine Infrastructure | csiro.au<https://my.csiro.au/OrgInfo/Structure/Support/CorpAffairs/What-we-do/Brand-and-Marketing/www.csiro.au> From: David Caress ***@***.***> Sent: Friday, 12 September 2025 2:12 AM To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***>; Author ***@***.***> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.******@***.***>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6761436?s=20&v=4]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Francisco, I don’t find the link. What shows up in the email and in the Github interface is: ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem<mailto:***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem> Cheers, Dave On Sep 10, 2025, at 10:16 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Thanks David, I don’t think it’s an issue with GSF version per se…more that I’m creating a GSF from the .kmall files. Attached is an example of the GSF and .inf file from MBSYSTEM. Attached is an FTP link to download the example files. ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem<mailto:***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem> Instructions for Public parties to access data....suggest you use WinSCP or filezilla. ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***> Kind Regards, Francisco Navidad Spatial Data Manager Geophysical Survey & Mapping | Engineering & Technology | NCMI | CSIRO ***@***.******@***.***<mailto:***@***.******@***.***>> | +61 3 6232 5514 | +61 467 512 210 Castray Esplanade, Hobart, TAS 7001 GPO Box 1538 CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land, sea and waters, of the area that we live and work on across Australia. We acknowledge their continuing connection to their culture and we pay our respects to their Elders past and present. The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged. Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender by return email. Thank you. To the extent permitted by law, CSIRO does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained or that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Please consider the environment before printing this email. CSIRO National Collections and Marine Infrastructure | csiro.au<https://my.csiro.au/OrgInfo/Structure/Support/CorpAffairs/What-we-do/Brand-and-Marketing/www.csiro.au> From: David Caress ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2025 1:11 PM To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>>; Author ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.******@***.***<mailto:***@***.******@***.***>>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6761436?s=20&v=4]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Fnavidad, MB-System was updated to use the current GSF library (version 3.11) with release 5.8.2.beta23 on June 25, 2025. Please try the current MB-System release 5.8.3beta03. Also please provide us access to an example problem GSF file. Cheers, Dave On Sep 9, 2025, at 6:31 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***%3cmailto:***@***.***>>> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad created an issue (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529> Describe the bug Caris version 12.1.1 outputs a GSF file from the new sensors EM124, EM712 & EM2040MK2 .KMALL raw files using HIPS to GSF. MB-System Supported Swath Data Formats The MBSYSTEM process to create the mbinfo .inf is running mbformat 121 and does not account for KMALL GSFs. I use MBSystem command = f'mbinfo -F{format_code} -I' + os.path.join(inpath, file) + ' -O -V' eg. mbinfo -F121 -{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf} -O{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf}.inf To Reproduce Provide information sufficient to reproduce the behavior: 1. Make relevant data samples available via ftp, Dropbox, Google Drive, or other means. 2. Provide complete copies of shell commands and shell output. 3. If the problem involves interactive applications like mbgrdviz, describe any relevant sequence of GUI actions. Expected behavior I run the HIPS to GSF process with .ALL files processed in HDCS and then can run mbinfo -F121 and i get information. I run the HIPS to GSF process with .KMALL files processed in HDCS and then run mbinfo F-121 and get zero information! GSF FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output from Caris v12.1.1 Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf MBIO Data Format ID: 121 Format name: MBF_GSFGENMB Informal Description: Leidos Generic Sensor Format (GSF) version GSF-v03.09 Attributes: variable beams, bathymetry and amplitude, binary, single files, Leidos (formerly SAIC). Data Totals: Number of Records: 0 Bathymetry Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (0 pixels): Number of Pixels: 0 Number of Good Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 0 0.00% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.0000 hours Total Track Length: 0.0000 km Average Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Start of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m End of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Longitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Latitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Latitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Altitude: 0.0000 Maximum Altitude: 0.0000 Minimum Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Amplitude: 0.0000 Maximum Amplitude: 0.0000 Minimum Sidescan: 0.0000 Maximum Sidescan: 0.0000 RAW FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output is ok Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.kmall MBIO Data Format ID: 261 Format name: MBF_KEMKMALL Informal Description: Kongsberg multibeam echosounder system kmall datagram format Attributes: Kongsberg fourth generation multibeam sonars (EM2040, EM712, EM304, EM124), bathymetry, amplitude, backscatter, variable beams, binary datagrams, Kongsberg. Data Totals: Number of Records: 300 Bathymetry Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (2048 pixels): Number of Pixels: 614400 Number of Good Pixels: 570180 92.80% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 44220 7.20% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.4623 hours Total Track Length: 5.8357 km Average Speed: 12.6227 km/hr ( 6.8231 knots) Start of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:16:53.444336 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:16:53.444336) Lon: 143.592433536 Lat: -40.866254411 Depth: 1381.2194 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 266.7220 degrees Sonar Depth: 7.5801 m Sonar Altitude: 1203.0162 m End of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:44:37.795826 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:44:37.795826) Lon: 143.525040491 Lat: -40.873951908 Depth: 1563.0197 meters Speed: 0.0594 km/hr ( 0.0321 knots) Heading: 349.7916 degrees Sonar Depth: 8.3357 m Sonar Altitude: 1503.2841 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 143.493896143 Maximum Longitude: 143.593819066 Minimum Latitude: -40.899720712 Maximum Latitude: -40.848229304 Minimum Sonar Depth: 4.9799 Maximum Sonar Depth: 9.6619 Minimum Altitude: 1203.0162 Maximum Altitude: 1503.2841 Minimum Depth: 1090.1481 Maximum Depth: 1655.1562 Minimum Amplitude: -61.3398 Maximum Amplitude: 9.1113 Minimum Sidescan: -80.9000 Maximum Sidescan: 2.9000 Computing context (please complete the following information): * OS: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS * MB-System version 5.8.1 * Caris version 12.1.1 — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#1529>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABTSXXB32EZKYT4IELJ4DFD3R6EPJAVCNFSM6AAAAACGCVXDUCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43ASLTON2WKOZTGQYDANRUG44TGNY>. 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[dwcaress]

Francisco, Thanks. I find that the current version of MB-System (5.8.3beta03) works fine with your sample GSF file. It is possible that Caris is using the most recent version of the GSF library to write the file, in which case a recent version of MB-System might be necessary as well to read it. I’m working on a Mac running Sequoia. Please try installing the current MB-System. https://github.com/dwcaress/MB-System/releases/tag/5.8.3beta03 Cheers, Dave ***@***.*** 20250911FNavidad-GSF-kmall % mbinfo -I 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf -V Program MBINFO MB-system Version 5.8.3beta03 Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf MBIO Data Format ID: 121 Format name: MBF_GSFGENMB Informal Description: Leidos Generic Sensor Format (GSF) version GSF-v03.11 Attributes: variable beams, bathymetry and amplitude, binary, single files, Leidos (formerly SAIC). Data Totals: Number of Records: 600 Bathymetry Data (800 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477797 99.54% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 72 0.01% Amplitude Data (800 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477797 99.54% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 72 0.01% Sidescan Data (4407 pixels): Number of Pixels: 2005933 Number of Good Pixels: 1985688 98.99% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 20245 1.01% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.4623 hours Total Track Length: 5.8238 km Average Speed: 12.5965 km/hr ( 6.8089 knots) Start of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:16:53.404999 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:16:53.404999) Lon: 143.592290200 Lat: -40.866270900 Depth: 1202.5600 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 272.4600 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.3800 m Sonar Altitude: 1202.1800 m End of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:44:37.796000 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:44:37.796000) Lon: 143.525040700 Lat: -40.873951800 Depth: 1484.2633 meters Speed: 0.1852 km/hr ( 0.1001 knots) Heading: 355.4500 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.5600 m Sonar Altitude: 1483.7033 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 143.494353528 Maximum Longitude: 143.593779685 Minimum Latitude: -40.900326629 Maximum Latitude: -40.850024938 Minimum Sonar Depth: -2.3100 Maximum Sonar Depth: 1.8600 Minimum Altitude: 1202.1800 Maximum Altitude: 1500.9133 Minimum Depth: 1096.4600 Maximum Depth: 1637.8000 Minimum Amplitude: -61.0000 Maximum Amplitude: 9.0000 Minimum Sidescan: 0.0000 Maximum Sidescan: 65535.0000 ***@***.*** 20250911FNavidad-GSF-kmall % On Sep 11, 2025, at 5:16 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem ftp : // anonymous @ ftp . csiro . au / GSM / MBsystem (take all the spaces away) above Kind Regards, Francisco Navidad Spatial Data Manager Geophysical Survey & Mapping | Engineering & Technology | NCMI | CSIRO ***@***.******@***.***> | +61 3 6232 5514 | +61 467 512 210 Castray Esplanade, Hobart, TAS 7001 GPO Box 1538 CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land, sea and waters, of the area that we live and work on across Australia. 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CSIRO National Collections and Marine Infrastructure | csiro.au<https://my.csiro.au/OrgInfo/Structure/Support/CorpAffairs/What-we-do/Brand-and-Marketing/www.csiro.au> From: David Caress ***@***.***> Sent: Friday, 12 September 2025 2:12 AM To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***>; Author ***@***.***> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.******@***.***>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6761436?s=20&v=4]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Francisco, I don’t find the link. What shows up in the email and in the Github interface is: ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem<mailto:***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem> Cheers, Dave On Sep 10, 2025, at 10:16 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Thanks David, I don’t think it’s an issue with GSF version per se…more that I’m creating a GSF from the .kmall files. Attached is an example of the GSF and .inf file from MBSYSTEM. Attached is an FTP link to download the example files. ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem<mailto:***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem> Instructions for Public parties to access data....suggest you use WinSCP or filezilla. ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***> Kind Regards, Francisco Navidad Spatial Data Manager Geophysical Survey & Mapping | Engineering & Technology | NCMI | CSIRO ***@***.******@***.***<mailto:***@***.******@***.***>> | +61 3 6232 5514 | +61 467 512 210 Castray Esplanade, Hobart, TAS 7001 GPO Box 1538 CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land, sea and waters, of the area that we live and work on across Australia. We acknowledge their continuing connection to their culture and we pay our respects to their Elders past and present. The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged. Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender by return email. Thank you. To the extent permitted by law, CSIRO does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained or that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Please consider the environment before printing this email. CSIRO National Collections and Marine Infrastructure | csiro.au<https://my.csiro.au/OrgInfo/Structure/Support/CorpAffairs/What-we-do/Brand-and-Marketing/www.csiro.au> From: David Caress ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2025 1:11 PM To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>>; Author ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.******@***.***<mailto:***@***.******@***.***>>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6761436?s=20&v=4]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Fnavidad, MB-System was updated to use the current GSF library (version 3.11) with release 5.8.2.beta23 on June 25, 2025. Please try the current MB-System release 5.8.3beta03. Also please provide us access to an example problem GSF file. Cheers, Dave On Sep 9, 2025, at 6:31 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***%3cmailto:***@***.***>>> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad created an issue (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529> Describe the bug Caris version 12.1.1 outputs a GSF file from the new sensors EM124, EM712 & EM2040MK2 .KMALL raw files using HIPS to GSF. MB-System Supported Swath Data Formats The MBSYSTEM process to create the mbinfo .inf is running mbformat 121 and does not account for KMALL GSFs. I use MBSystem command = f'mbinfo -F{format_code} -I' + os.path.join(inpath, file) + ' -O -V' eg. mbinfo -F121 -{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf} -O{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf}.inf To Reproduce Provide information sufficient to reproduce the behavior: 1. Make relevant data samples available via ftp, Dropbox, Google Drive, or other means. 2. Provide complete copies of shell commands and shell output. 3. If the problem involves interactive applications like mbgrdviz, describe any relevant sequence of GUI actions. Expected behavior I run the HIPS to GSF process with .ALL files processed in HDCS and then can run mbinfo -F121 and i get information. I run the HIPS to GSF process with .KMALL files processed in HDCS and then run mbinfo F-121 and get zero information! GSF FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output from Caris v12.1.1 Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf MBIO Data Format ID: 121 Format name: MBF_GSFGENMB Informal Description: Leidos Generic Sensor Format (GSF) version GSF-v03.09 Attributes: variable beams, bathymetry and amplitude, binary, single files, Leidos (formerly SAIC). Data Totals: Number of Records: 0 Bathymetry Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (0 pixels): Number of Pixels: 0 Number of Good Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 0 0.00% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.0000 hours Total Track Length: 0.0000 km Average Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Start of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m End of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Longitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Latitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Latitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Altitude: 0.0000 Maximum Altitude: 0.0000 Minimum Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Amplitude: 0.0000 Maximum Amplitude: 0.0000 Minimum Sidescan: 0.0000 Maximum Sidescan: 0.0000 RAW FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output is ok Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.kmall MBIO Data Format ID: 261 Format name: MBF_KEMKMALL Informal Description: Kongsberg multibeam echosounder system kmall datagram format Attributes: Kongsberg fourth generation multibeam sonars (EM2040, EM712, EM304, EM124), bathymetry, amplitude, backscatter, variable beams, binary datagrams, Kongsberg. Data Totals: Number of Records: 300 Bathymetry Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (2048 pixels): Number of Pixels: 614400 Number of Good Pixels: 570180 92.80% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 44220 7.20% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.4623 hours Total Track Length: 5.8357 km Average Speed: 12.6227 km/hr ( 6.8231 knots) Start of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:16:53.444336 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:16:53.444336) Lon: 143.592433536 Lat: -40.866254411 Depth: 1381.2194 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 266.7220 degrees Sonar Depth: 7.5801 m Sonar Altitude: 1203.0162 m End of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:44:37.795826 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:44:37.795826) Lon: 143.525040491 Lat: -40.873951908 Depth: 1563.0197 meters Speed: 0.0594 km/hr ( 0.0321 knots) Heading: 349.7916 degrees Sonar Depth: 8.3357 m Sonar Altitude: 1503.2841 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 143.493896143 Maximum Longitude: 143.593819066 Minimum Latitude: -40.899720712 Maximum Latitude: -40.848229304 Minimum Sonar Depth: 4.9799 Maximum Sonar Depth: 9.6619 Minimum Altitude: 1203.0162 Maximum Altitude: 1503.2841 Minimum Depth: 1090.1481 Maximum Depth: 1655.1562 Minimum Amplitude: -61.3398 Maximum Amplitude: 9.1113 Minimum Sidescan: -80.9000 Maximum Sidescan: 2.9000 Computing context (please complete the following information): * OS: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS * MB-System version 5.8.1 * Caris version 12.1.1 — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#1529>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABTSXXB32EZKYT4IELJ4DFD3R6EPJAVCNFSM6AAAAACGCVXDUCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43ASLTON2WKOZTGQYDANRUG44TGNY>. 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[FNavidad]

Oh thanks! That's good to know it might be fixed in new beta version 5.8.3 So, if we get the same result as me using 5.8.1, then this new GSF version issue has been fixed. I will try installing the new beta version and let you know. Thanks for the quick turnaround in replies😊 Regards, Francisco Navidad

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________________________________ From: David Caress ***@***.***> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2025 13:45 To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***>; Author ***@***.***> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.*** Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6761436?s=20&v=4]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Francisco, Thanks. I find that the current version of MB-System (5.8.3beta03) works fine with your sample GSF file. It is possible that Caris is using the most recent version of the GSF library to write the file, in which case a recent version of MB-System might be necessary as well to read it. I’m working on a Mac running Sequoia. Please try installing the current MB-System. https://github.com/dwcaress/MB-System/releases/tag/5.8.3beta03 Cheers, Dave ***@***.*** 20250911FNavidad-GSF-kmall % mbinfo -I 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf -V Program MBINFO MB-system Version 5.8.3beta03 Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf MBIO Data Format ID: 121 Format name: MBF_GSFGENMB Informal Description: Leidos Generic Sensor Format (GSF) version GSF-v03.11 Attributes: variable beams, bathymetry and amplitude, binary, single files, Leidos (formerly SAIC). Data Totals: Number of Records: 600 Bathymetry Data (800 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477797 99.54% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 72 0.01% Amplitude Data (800 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477797 99.54% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 72 0.01% Sidescan Data (4407 pixels): Number of Pixels: 2005933 Number of Good Pixels: 1985688 98.99% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 20245 1.01% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.4623 hours Total Track Length: 5.8238 km Average Speed: 12.5965 km/hr ( 6.8089 knots) Start of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:16:53.404999 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:16:53.404999) Lon: 143.592290200 Lat: -40.866270900 Depth: 1202.5600 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 272.4600 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.3800 m Sonar Altitude: 1202.1800 m End of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:44:37.796000 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:44:37.796000) Lon: 143.525040700 Lat: -40.873951800 Depth: 1484.2633 meters Speed: 0.1852 km/hr ( 0.1001 knots) Heading: 355.4500 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.5600 m Sonar Altitude: 1483.7033 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 143.494353528 Maximum Longitude: 143.593779685 Minimum Latitude: -40.900326629 Maximum Latitude: -40.850024938 Minimum Sonar Depth: -2.3100 Maximum Sonar Depth: 1.8600 Minimum Altitude: 1202.1800 Maximum Altitude: 1500.9133 Minimum Depth: 1096.4600 Maximum Depth: 1637.8000 Minimum Amplitude: -61.0000 Maximum Amplitude: 9.0000 Minimum Sidescan: 0.0000 Maximum Sidescan: 65535.0000 ***@***.*** 20250911FNavidad-GSF-kmall % On Sep 11, 2025, at 5:16 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem ftp : // anonymous @ ftp . csiro . au / GSM / MBsystem (take all the spaces away) above Kind Regards, Francisco Navidad Spatial Data Manager Geophysical Survey & Mapping | Engineering & Technology | NCMI | CSIRO ***@***.******@***.***> | +61 3 6232 5514 | +61 467 512 210 Castray Esplanade, Hobart, TAS 7001 GPO Box 1538 CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land, sea and waters, of the area that we live and work on across Australia. 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CSIRO National Collections and Marine Infrastructure | csiro.au<https://my.csiro.au/OrgInfo/Structure/Support/CorpAffairs/What-we-do/Brand-and-Marketing/www.csiro.au> From: David Caress ***@***.***> Sent: Friday, 12 September 2025 2:12 AM To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***>; Author ***@***.***> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.******@***.***>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6761436?s=20&v=4]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Francisco, I don’t find the link. What shows up in the email and in the Github interface is: ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem<mailto:***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem> Cheers, Dave On Sep 10, 2025, at 10:16 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Thanks David, I don’t think it’s an issue with GSF version per se…more that I’m creating a GSF from the .kmall files. Attached is an example of the GSF and .inf file from MBSYSTEM. Attached is an FTP link to download the example files. ***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem<mailto:***@***.***/GSM/MBsystem> Instructions for Public parties to access data....suggest you use WinSCP or filezilla. ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***> Kind Regards, Francisco Navidad Spatial Data Manager Geophysical Survey & Mapping | Engineering & Technology | NCMI | CSIRO ***@***.******@***.***<mailto:***@***.******@***.***>> | +61 3 6232 5514 | +61 467 512 210 Castray Esplanade, Hobart, TAS 7001 GPO Box 1538 CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land, sea and waters, of the area that we live and work on across Australia. We acknowledge their continuing connection to their culture and we pay our respects to their Elders past and present. The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged. Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender by return email. Thank you. To the extent permitted by law, CSIRO does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained or that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Please consider the environment before printing this email. CSIRO National Collections and Marine Infrastructure | csiro.au<https://my.csiro.au/OrgInfo/Structure/Support/CorpAffairs/What-we-do/Brand-and-Marketing/www.csiro.au> From: David Caress ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2025 1:11 PM To: dwcaress/MB-System ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> Cc: Navidad, Cisco (NCMI, Hobart) ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>>; Author ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***>> Subject: Re: [dwcaress/MB-System] mbinfo (mbformat 121) for GSF from kmall files outputs NULL info (Issue #1529) You don't often get email from ***@***.******@***.***<mailto:***@***.******@***.***>>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6761436?s=20&v=4]dwcaress left a comment (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529 (comment)> Fnavidad, MB-System was updated to use the current GSF library (version 3.11) with release 5.8.2.beta23 on June 25, 2025. Please try the current MB-System release 5.8.3beta03. Also please provide us access to an example problem GSF file. Cheers, Dave On Sep 9, 2025, at 6:31 PM, FNavidad ***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***<mailto:***@***.***%3cmailto:***@***.***>>> wrote: [https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/219780897?s=20&v=4]FNavidad created an issue (dwcaress/MB-System#1529)<#1529> Describe the bug Caris version 12.1.1 outputs a GSF file from the new sensors EM124, EM712 & EM2040MK2 .KMALL raw files using HIPS to GSF. MB-System Supported Swath Data Formats The MBSYSTEM process to create the mbinfo .inf is running mbformat 121 and does not account for KMALL GSFs. I use MBSystem command = f'mbinfo -F{format_code} -I' + os.path.join(inpath, file) + ' -O -V' eg. mbinfo -F121 -{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf} -O{0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf}.inf To Reproduce Provide information sufficient to reproduce the behavior: 1. Make relevant data samples available via ftp, Dropbox, Google Drive, or other means. 2. Provide complete copies of shell commands and shell output. 3. If the problem involves interactive applications like mbgrdviz, describe any relevant sequence of GUI actions. Expected behavior I run the HIPS to GSF process with .ALL files processed in HDCS and then can run mbinfo -F121 and i get information. I run the HIPS to GSF process with .KMALL files processed in HDCS and then run mbinfo F-121 and get zero information! GSF FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output from Caris v12.1.1 Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.gsf MBIO Data Format ID: 121 Format name: MBF_GSFGENMB Informal Description: Leidos Generic Sensor Format (GSF) version GSF-v03.09 Attributes: variable beams, bathymetry and amplitude, binary, single files, Leidos (formerly SAIC). Data Totals: Number of Records: 0 Bathymetry Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (0 beams): Number of Beams: 0 Number of Good Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Beams: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (0 pixels): Number of Pixels: 0 Number of Good Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 0 0.00% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.0000 hours Total Track Length: 0.0000 km Average Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Start of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m End of Data: Time: 00 00 0000 00:00:00.000000 JD0 (0000-00-00T00:00:00.000000) Lon: 0.000000000 Lat: 0.000000000 Depth: 0.0000 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 0.0000 degrees Sonar Depth: 0.0000 m Sonar Altitude: 0.0000 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Longitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Latitude: 0.000000000 Maximum Latitude: 0.000000000 Minimum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Sonar Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Altitude: 0.0000 Maximum Altitude: 0.0000 Minimum Depth: 0.0000 Maximum Depth: 0.0000 Minimum Amplitude: 0.0000 Maximum Amplitude: 0.0000 Minimum Sidescan: 0.0000 Maximum Sidescan: 0.0000 RAW FILE EM124 (KMALL) .inf output is ok Swath Data File: 0000_20250502_151655_Investigator_em124.kmall MBIO Data Format ID: 261 Format name: MBF_KEMKMALL Informal Description: Kongsberg multibeam echosounder system kmall datagram format Attributes: Kongsberg fourth generation multibeam sonars (EM2040, EM712, EM304, EM124), bathymetry, amplitude, backscatter, variable beams, binary datagrams, Kongsberg. Data Totals: Number of Records: 300 Bathymetry Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Amplitude Data (1600 beams): Number of Beams: 480000 Number of Good Beams: 477869 99.56% Number of Zero Beams: 2131 0.44% Number of Flagged Beams: 0 0.00% Sidescan Data (2048 pixels): Number of Pixels: 614400 Number of Good Pixels: 570180 92.80% Number of Zero Pixels: 0 0.00% Number of Flagged Pixels: 44220 7.20% Navigation Totals: Total Time: 0.4623 hours Total Track Length: 5.8357 km Average Speed: 12.6227 km/hr ( 6.8231 knots) Start of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:16:53.444336 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:16:53.444336) Lon: 143.592433536 Lat: -40.866254411 Depth: 1381.2194 meters Speed: 0.0000 km/hr ( 0.0000 knots) Heading: 266.7220 degrees Sonar Depth: 7.5801 m Sonar Altitude: 1203.0162 m End of Data: Time: 05 02 2025 15:44:37.795826 JD122 (2025-05-02T15:44:37.795826) Lon: 143.525040491 Lat: -40.873951908 Depth: 1563.0197 meters Speed: 0.0594 km/hr ( 0.0321 knots) Heading: 349.7916 degrees Sonar Depth: 8.3357 m Sonar Altitude: 1503.2841 m Limits: Minimum Longitude: 143.493896143 Maximum Longitude: 143.593819066 Minimum Latitude: -40.899720712 Maximum Latitude: -40.848229304 Minimum Sonar Depth: 4.9799 Maximum Sonar Depth: 9.6619 Minimum Altitude: 1203.0162 Maximum Altitude: 1503.2841 Minimum Depth: 1090.1481 Maximum Depth: 1655.1562 Minimum Amplitude: -61.3398 Maximum Amplitude: 9.1113 Minimum Sidescan: -80.9000 Maximum Sidescan: 2.9000 Computing context (please complete the following information): * OS: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS * MB-System version 5.8.1 * Caris version 12.1.1 — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#1529>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABTSXXB32EZKYT4IELJ4DFD3R6EPJAVCNFSM6AAAAACGCVXDUCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43ASLTON2WKOZTGQYDANRUG44TGNY>. 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