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+# 2025-11-25
+
+Note Taker: Chris Manson
+Time Keeper: Chris Manson
+
+## Attendees
+
+Add yourself to the list if you attend and check the box!
+
+- [x] Ed Faulkner (EF)
+- [x] Chris Manson (CM)
+- [x] Alex (A)
+- [x] Preston Sego (PS)
+- [ ] Simon Ihmig (SI)
+- [x] Katie Gengler (KG)
+- [ ] Krystan HuffMenne (KH)
+- [ ] Peter Wagenet (PW)
+- [ ] James Davis (JD)
+- [ ] Liam Potter (LP)
+- [x] David Taylor
+
+## Topics
+
+### Review unreviewed PRs
+
+#### Use replacers for eslint and babel to fix the full path display during project generation
+
+- https://github.com/ember-cli/ember-app-blueprint/pull/149
+
+- (discussion) generally a good change
+- CM: what's the value in adding this complexity to have it generate an app with newer node APIs
+- (long discussion)
+- (general agreement) we will remove that odd change and we can get this PR approved
+
+### amd bundle deprecation, release issues <ef4>
+
+- (long discussion about the merits and the way forward)
+- (discussion of the required updates in people's apps)
+- (general consensus that the trade offs are worth it and we can proceed)
+- (general discussion) optional-features needs to be rearchitected so we can use it more effectively
+  - it really should just be part of ember-source
+
+### review "Embroider router support for ember source less than 4.12" <@void-mAlex>
+
+- https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider/pull/2624  
+- (general agreement) it's a good change
+- (general discussion) so we don't have tests for embroider router in the embroider monorepo
+- A: ember-engines has been a good test case for this and a few other things
+- 
+
+### first investigations into optional babel plugin <@mansona>
+
+- (long discussion)
+- CM: so we can only do macros and loose mode templates
+- EF: all the logic of which one is loose and strict is defined in ember-babel-template-complication
+- ultimately we want to implement these in 
+
+### bug with app files causing cycles in typescript <@mansona>
+
+- CM: should we probably just add app.ts to the list of ignored files?
+- EF: we need to ignore all "resolvable extensions" of app - this is defined somewhere 
+- CM: I'll take a look at this
+
+