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DLA-Lya cross-correlation is not correct #87
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@jfarr03, this is very good. Can you do a version of the last plot for mu positive in one plot and mu negative in the other? If the last plot of your ticket is for |mu| you should update the legend. |
@londumas The last plot is for the DLA auto-correlation, so I only measured for rp in (0,200)Mpc/h and I don't have any negative mu bins |
Sory, I see. It looks good and the level of noise is normal to me. for the high chi2, it is highly probable that the picca estimator of the variance is not perfect. But it is good enough for a plot in a paper. |
@londumas no worries! The 3D plots are below. The dotted line shows a "theoretical" prediction, using b_LYA=-0.119, beta_LYA=1.53, b_DLA=2.0, beta_DLA=0.48 And the fit for this second method is as follows:
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I think it looks very good. |
@jfarr03, if you have the time and the energy, could you compute the 3D cross HCD x QSO? As I showed you, using the SaclayMocks (igmhub/SaclayMocks#14 (comment)), I found deviation from the expectation along the line-of-sight. However, it is not a show stopper for the production of the 100 realizations. |
Update: Consider a pair of QSOs that are near each other on the sky, one (QSO1) behind the other (QSO2). Some cells in QSO1's spectrum - cell1 for example - will be close to QSO2, and so will be more likely to be in a high-density environment. Thus the value of delta_F in this cell will be "biased" towards low values. Consider correlating cells in QSO1's spectrum with DLAs in QSO2's. Assume that a rest-frame wavelength cut has been put on the DLAs, so that only DLAs with lambda_r < lambda_r,cut are included in the catalog. The separation between lambda_alpha and lambda_r,cut can be converted into a distance along the line of sight, r_cut (this is redshift dependent). If we consider correlating cell1 with DLAs (crosses) in the spectrum of QSO2, there are 3 key regions:
As such, you would expect to measure no signal up to r_p=r_cut, and then a suppressed signal beyond this point. Now imagine another cell that is not close to QSO2 - cell2 for example - and so has no bias in the value of delta_F. Consider correlating it with DLAs in the spectrum of QSO2. This time there are 5 key regions:
Thus, imagining summing contributions from both cells in each region:
and so we would expect to see no bias in the correlation until r_p = r_cut, at which point there will be a (relatively) sudden shift downwards. This is tested in the below plot. In the top left, no rest frame cut is used in the DLA catalog, and there is a clear shift for r_p>0. In the top right, bottom left and bottom right, successively stronger rest-frame cuts are used, and so r_cut gradually increases, and thus the onset of the downward shift moves to higher r_p. |
@jfarr03, Thank you very much for these explanation. What I am confused about is that cell1 and cell2 are already quite far from their hosting quasar: the forest lies in [1040,1200] A and the quasar is at 1215.67 A. Thus the closest cell to the quasar is at 15.67A, if I remember correctly this translates into ~16 Mpc/h. Do you mean that the quasarxLYA correlation is even too strong there? If this is the case it means that:
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Here is the stack of the transmission and of delta_transmission along the line of sight, in lambda_RF. It is pretty flat a l<1200, but it is possible that a residual still exists and that what you measure. This also explains why this is not measured using the cooked mocks, because the fit of the continuum, removes this effect. |
So to conclude, the problem must come from the fact that delta_transmission is defned
to something like:
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This might also fix the fact that we need randoms for the cross using the raw. |
It's not about the distance to the hosting quasar, it's about the distance to the other quasar, the one that has the DLAs in the spectrum.
You are missing a factor (1+z) here, so more like 50-60 Mpc/h. Do you mean that the quasarxLYA correlation is even too strong there? If this is the case it means that:
No, I don't think this is the right interpretation. Happy to discuss this in Paris. |
[More details to be added imminently]
When measuring the DLA-Lya cross-correlation, there is an issue with DLA-delta pairs that are close to along the line-of-sight:
Specifically, this is only present for mu positive:
When plotting xi against rp in the lowest rt bins, there seems to be a "step" of some kind for positive rp:
Interestingly, the "step" is also present when using random DLAs (3rd panel below):
Evidently there is an issue here, either with the DLAs themselves, or the way in which I am measuring the correlation.
The DLA auto-correlation appears to look approximately correct, though the measurement is noisy:
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