Reevaluate presentation of sense restrictions

[stephenmk]

Discussed in #74

^{Originally posted by parfait8566 February 10, 2024}
For example, the entry "十戒" currently looks like this:

• 1st sense〔十戒 only〕
• 2nd sense

I think it would be immediately clearer if the restriction information was shown more like this:

• 1st sense 〔十戒〕
• 2nd sense〔十戒・十誡〕

I guess it could look awkward if there are a ton of possible forms/readings for the same sense, but wouldn't it be possible to make it that if they exceed a certain number they revert to the previous look?

[stephenmk]

Hmm... it would be cool if I could integrate the sense restrictions into the forms table.

A couple mockups

[parfait8566]

How would this work with e.g. a form that applies to multiple senses but not all?

I'm going to propose an edit for 十戒, as JMdict generally seems to be more partial to notes. I personally prefer restrictions, but I guess they're unpopular.
I still like the "system" I originally proposed, I think that some kokugos occasionally use something similar (like Meikyo for 群生).

[stephenmk]

How would this work with e.g. a form that applies to multiple senses but not all?

Tell me if I'm crazy. I think I prefer right/bottom over left/top.

ばね left	ばね right

じっかい top	じっかい bottom

I'm going to propose an edit for 十戒, as JMdict generally seems to be more partial to notes.

That's the direction we're going in, and that's probably best for most apps that use jmdict data. It makes it difficult for me to do things that I think are cool, though.

[stephenmk]

The more I think about this setup, the more I like it. I think I'm gonna go ahead and implement it.

Sometimes the results will be a little difficult to understand, but I think that's only when the data itself is difficult to understand. For example, in the entry for よんど, ４°【しど】 doesn't technically apply to any of the senses. I think it's easier to see this through the table approach at least.

Before	After

I should probably check the intersection of these sense restrictions and remove the ◇ symbol if the result is empty.

[parfait8566]

Tell me if I'm crazy. I think I prefer right/bottom over left/top.
ばね left ばね right

じっかい top じっかい bottom

That's actually pretty neat. I personally prefer right/top. Though with restrictions on the top the two empty rows on the left look a bit awkward.

That's the direction we're going in, and that's probably best for most apps that use jmdict data. It makes it difficult for me to do things that I think are cool, though.

Wouldn't it be technically possible to systematically convert notes into normal restrictions? They usually follow the same format ("occ. written as", "also written as", etc.). Maybe too outlandish.