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Follow up to last PR #20
Follow up to last PR #20
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"ip + sum, et cum ip + so, et in ip + so" → "Ip + sum, et cum Ip + so, et in Ip + so" for same reasons given in DivinumOfficium#4236
ipso/um → Ipso/um
- Psalmi minor feria 5 - Accents for Cap. Tertia / Vespera - Versicle Commemoratio Sancti - Short conclusions for Orationes - Commemoratio OP Altovadensis - no R.br. in Benedictine C12 Lauds and Vespers - Salve Regina bohemice - Allelúia - no added alleluja for C12 paschal tide - fix Roman and Benedictine C12 in Paschal tide - attempt to have the correct Antiphones in the last week of Advent - attempt to have the Sundays of the Nativitity for Altovado - concurrence rules for Sundays
I've thought about the second Sunday of the nativity aka Vigilia Epiphaniæ question some more: |
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Everything works! I have noticed some more Kleinigkeiten in the Off. Parvum de Beata:
For Lauds it works.
The occurrence works fine, but currently, in Vespers on 29. Dec. 2024, the main feast is the Holy Innocents, which is fine, but then the first Commemoration is from St. Thomas Becket, which is wrong. But it's not the only thing wrong here, e.g. it shows a Commemoration of Octave SS. Innocentium on the very feast...
Yes, it's still called Vigilia Epiphaniae, but it uses the texts from Die vj./Sunday in Christmas Octave, and if it's a Sunday, it has first Vespers and 3 Nocturns with 12 Lessons. And no matter on what day it falls, it's always a mixture of Antiphons from Feria/Sunday with Die vj./Sunday in Oct. Nat.
I tested it on above mentioned date and it works fine. For more, we need more feasts. BTW, Suffragium de Beata shows now this in the end: " $Amen ℟. Amen."
Tell me about that... I'm glad to see religious communities trying to go back to a state that actually makes sense. I hope that in a reasonable time, the only difference between 1951 and Altovadum Cistercian Rite will be the Calendar... Current state of the Christmastide is quite strange.
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Yes, that's a good question. Of course, "both" won't be commemorated, as it's still the Vigilia Epiphaniae, it only uses the texts from Die vj./Dom. in Oct. Nat. So it's still one office. In the old Cistercian Directorium Divini Officii, it is always designated as Dominica vacans, and it doesn't have proper texts. And as such, it wouldn't be commemorated on Jan 2 through 4, if it falls on Sunday. And anyway, since 1950, it would be celebrated as the Most Holy Name. Between 1950 and 1955, there wasn't any instance of Vigilia Epiphaniae on Sunday, therefore I cannot check, but before that, e.g. in 1930, the Vigil was celebrated, although it fell on Sunday, and following this logic, I (along with the Brothers from Hohenfurth) would definitely commemorate in on the Most Holy Name, but only as Vigilia Epiphaniae, and only on Sunday. After 1956/7 (I didn't find the appropriate part in 1956 Directory, as from the copy in Heiligenkreuz someone tore out pages 1-11...), the other Octaves were abolished, Vigilia Epiphaniae abolished, so the Most Holy Name doesn't have any commemorations, not even on 5. Jan. in Vespers from Epiphany. And interesting is, that even before that, if the Most Holy Name was celebrated on 2. Jan., it didn't have any first Vespers, but the Octave of St. Stephen was commemorated. Strange. |
Your description of the Cistercian practice of the 1950s sounds to me like they simply adopted the Roman rubrics by the letter without taking care of the Cistercian specifities. |
List of fixes:
for Officium parvum:
for commemoratio altovadensis:
in general:
for the Roman and Benedictine:
Apart from that before:
I have attempted to fix, yet not tested.
Added it to the transfer tables; the actual propers might still be quite off
You've made me read the rubrics for January 5 in the 1885 Cistercian book. This is amazing! Just like the Sunday within the Octave has only been kept if it fell on December 30 (otherwise this was the 6th day within the Octave), the "Second Sunday of Christmas" has only been kept if it fell on January 5, otherwise the Vigilia Epiphania had a ferial type office just like Dec 30.
WOW!
For the Roman and Benedictine, January 5 has always been the Sunday office: for no other day in that week has been free: Jan 1, 6, and 7 are naturally occupied and Jan 2 through 4 has been impeded by the Octave Days of Ss. Stephanus, Joannes et Innocentes. However, that Sunday never had the name "Dominica secunda Nativitatis" but "Vigilia Epiphaniæ" given its fixed location: this, I think, is the biggest blunder of the whole 1955 butchering with the decree cancelling almost all Vigils and noboday objecting that the Vigil of the Epiphany is not a Vigil but a Sunday office: Semiduplex in rank, white paraments, and with first Vespers.
Attempted to implement but we can only really test it once we have filled the Kalendarium. the Cistercian logic is almost like the Tridentine version. Divino Afflatu has made the blunder to introduce ferial Saturday psalms for I. Vespers of Sunday even when a feast on Saturday was still to be commemorated in the Sunday office. The later only used to start "A capitulo" similar to the Simplex feasts. Sometimes it is quite frustratring, having analysed all these different versions with the help of the divinum-officium project and seeing how perfect everything was in the past and each reform just punched more and more holes in this work of divine art. There would have been so many easier solutions to the problems that had arisen by the early 1900s.
and as always, merged the upstream ...