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* Minutes for coordination meeting #273, Aug. 29 * Minutes updates Correct spelling Remove "standing items" Remove empty items General markdown lint * Final notes integrated from live notes * Fix list of attendees --------- Co-authored-by: Michel Jouvin <jouvin@ijclab.in2p3.fr> Co-authored-by: Graeme A Stewart <graeme.andrew.stewart@cern.ch>
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| title: "HSF Coordination Meeting #273, 29 August 2024" | ||
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| ## Attending | ||
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| Present/Contributing: Michel Jouvin, Stefan Roiser, Tommaso Lari, Paul Laycock | ||
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| Apologies/Contributing: Eduardo Rodrigues, Claire Antel, Pere Mato, Graeme Stewart, Alexander Moreno | ||
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| ## News, general matters, announcements | ||
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| ### *Reminder* SPECTRUM/JENA Survey on Software, Computing, Training | ||
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| > Dear Colleagues from Research / Infrastructures, | ||
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| > The SPECTRUM project [1] and the JENA Computing Initiative [2] are conducting a survey to gather insights on current best practice and expected future evolutions in the domain of large scale / data intensive scientific computing. | ||
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| > The survey is directed at researchers, managers of scientific initiatives and infrastructure managers, either on individual or institutional bases. | ||
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| > Our goal is to collect from the community insights on current best practice and expected future evolutions in the domain of large scale / data intensive scientific computing. This is important also for you, if you want to inform policy makers and funders about the needs from science and infrastructures and push in the direction of future interoperability. | ||
| [Full announcement](https://www.spectrumproject.eu/article/spectrumjena-survey-on-the-future-of-scientific-computing) | ||
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| [Link to Survey](https://ec.europa.eu/eusurvey/runner/SPECTRUM-JENA_Survey1) | ||
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| Please consider filling this in and also helping to disseminate it to your colleagues. | ||
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| The survey is *differentiated* - filling in the Software and Training part (of most interest to HSF) should only take 10-15 minutes. | ||
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| ### Next HSF/WLCG Workshop | ||
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| The next WLCG/HSF meeting will be hosted by IJCLab in Orsay next May 5-9 (thank you Michel!). | ||
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| We will need people for the organising team - please say if you are interested. | ||
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| Topics of mutual interest with WLCG are favoured, but there will also be HSF dedicated sessions. | ||
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| ### European Strategy Update | ||
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| The [European Particle Physics Strategy Update](https://home.cern/news/news/knowledge-sharing/updating-european-strategy-particle-physics) will be next year: | ||
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| - Inputs from the community by 31 March 2025 | ||
| - Open Symposium 23-27 June 2025 | ||
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| We think it is a very good idea to have an input from the HSF on the software that we need for the future and how we achieve it. | ||
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| This would be a mini-update of the CWP from 2007. | ||
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| We believe that input coordinated by our **working groups** will be critical to doing this, especially from the critical areas of event generation, simulation, reconstruction and analysis; however, we should not at all forget the *people* dimension, so training and careers are vital to cover. | ||
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| ### LHCC | ||
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| Eduardo circulated the link to the LHCC presentation via the [Architects' Forum meeting](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1354965/). | ||
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| The draft [slides](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1361TObGpuKHpOLXwaubsBNdJBYPG5aV_32eYblKjpvI/edit?usp=sharing) are available. | ||
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| ### HSF Seminar Series | ||
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| We need to progress on organising the Seminar Series for the Autumn. Likely we could have 3 meetings this year at the start of October, November and December? (for September it’s rather late now). | ||
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| - Using the Computing & Accelerator forum slot (Wednesday 4:30-6:00 pm Geneva time) on other weeks | ||
| - Proposal: last Wednesday of the month | ||
| - First seminar foreseen in October: 30th (may be in an holiday period) | ||
| - Alternative: 16th (23rd is CHEP week) | ||
| - Will get in touch soon with Software Triggers & Reco who proposed something around 4-D reconstruction | ||
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| A few Steering Group members have offered to coordinate the organisation: Benedikt, Michel, Andrea(?) | ||
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| Suggestions for topics are really needed! | ||
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| ## Steering Group News | ||
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| There was a Steering Group meeting on 26 August and the [minutes](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/organization/2024/08/26/steering.html) are available on the website. | ||
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| - *Steering Group* is now the official name on the website (if you spot anachronistic references to the Coordination Team please make a PR) | ||
| - The HSF Affiliated Projects description has been lightly modified ([document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Un1V21LdehQNwkNGeUZOl_GBQ8IdjUpDp5bi9g2YvLg/edit?usp=sharing), [guidelines on levels](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AiLcqyLA4c1y2Iq-YZyKP7DwN8m2AJb_J44cDuGGAXI/edit)) | ||
| - This is now to be circulated to the Forum for feedback (and a call for early adopters) | ||
| - The HSF Advisory Group [document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L62pleuuME6K9WLl5T4KQaImPP_Qpc8HSym-XBNTKv8/edit?usp=sharing) received a few points of feedback which will be dealt with | ||
| - We propose to remove the difference between WGs and other activities: everything will now be called activity. | ||
| - Web site will be updated accordingly | ||
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| ## Activity Updates | ||
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| ### Software Training | ||
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| #### Last Events | ||
| - HSF Training Hackathon: [Introduction to Databases for HEP](https://hsf-training.github.io/hsf-training-databases-basics/) - July 29. This was the second session for new training material on Databases. | ||
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| #### Next Events | ||
| - HSF Training Hackathon: [Introduction to Databases for HEP](https://hsf-training.github.io/hsf-training-databases-basics/) - September 9. This will be the third session for new training material on Databases | ||
| - HSF/IRIS-HEP Software Basics Training - October 7-8. We will cover the fundamentals of Unix (shell and bash), Git and Github, and Python. Registration will open soon. We need instructors! | ||
| - HSF/IRIS-HEP Python for Analysis Training - October 15. We will cover the fundamentals of ROOT and Scikit-HEP. Registration will open soon. | ||
| - HSF Training Pre-CHEP Workshop - October 19-20. We are working on the agenda. We will have talks from HSF-India, LHCb, EVERSE, DUNE, ErUM-Data-Hub. Registration still open. | ||
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| #### C++ Course and Hands-on Training | ||
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| - [11th HEP C++ Course and Hands-on Training, Advanced C++](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1430163/) 30 September - 4 October (Mo, We, Fr), registration open now. | ||
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| ### Software Tools and Packaging | ||
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| ### Detector Simulation | ||
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| - Nothing to report; we will discuss the resumption of activities after the summer break at our next meeting on September 9th. | ||
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| ### Reconstruction and Software Trigger | ||
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| - No news. Still need to follow up with our potential speakers on 4D tracking for one of the upcoming HEP seminars. | ||
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| ### PyHEP | ||
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| #### PyHEP.dev 2024 | ||
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| [PyHEP.dev](https://indico.cern.ch/e/PyHEP2024.dev) is presently happening in Aachen, 26 Aug - 30 Aug. | ||
| This event is great for developers to talk to each other and exchange knowledge on interoperability of packages. | ||
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| ### JuliaHEP | ||
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| Next meeting October 2 at 4:30 pm Geneva time | ||
| - Will have a general Julia Computing Seminar on 1 October | ||
| - *Could badge this also as the first HSF Seminar?* | ||
| - [JuliaHEP 2024 Workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1410341/) - Sept. 30 - Oct. 4. It will be held at CERN. Two days of contributed talks and three days of training, hackathons and birds of a feather sessions. Registration still open. | ||
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| ### Compute and Accelerator Forum | ||
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| - [11 Sep](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1329693/), CARM profiling tool | ||
| - [9 Oct](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1329694/), RISC-V extended precision | ||
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| ## AOB | ||
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| ### Live Notes | ||
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| Due to a change in CodiMD access policy (limited number of editors for the free access), we moved the live notes to [CERNBox](https://cernbox.cern.ch/s/vaE9Hbv9ZiuOJOn) | ||
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| - Public link: every person who has it can edit | ||
| - No need to have a CERN account but if you have one, it is better if you log in | ||
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| ### Website | ||
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| There is an [issue in GitHub](https://github.com/HSF/hsf.github.io/issues/1411) to gather ideas about reorganising and revamping the website to better reflect our areas of actual activity. Please contact Mark and Graeme if you would like to help. | ||
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| The link checker is fixed: <https://github.com/HSF/hsf.github.io/pull/1574>! | ||
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| ### Next Meeting | ||
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| Next meeting will be [12 September](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1355756/). | ||
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| Reminder: please [sign up](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit) for chairing this or one of the future coordination meetings - we need volunteers from now until the end of the year! |