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Polarized STAR and PHENIX A_L W #2079

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@giacomomagni giacomomagni commented May 15, 2024

Implementation of the polarized asymmetries DY data from RHIC.

STAR datasets:

Dataset Obs. Status Comments Correlations Inspire HepData
STAR_WMWP_510GEV STAR_WMWP_510GEV_WM-AL STAR_WMWP_510GEV_WP-AL Figure 5 provides the combination with the 2011-2012 data Table1 of the Appendix for 2013 run only, not implemented paper dataset
Included in the combination with 2013 data paper dataset

PHENIX datasets:

Dataset Obs. Status Comments Correlations Inspire HepData
$A_L$ in $W^\pm +Z$ see below paper dataset
$A_L$ in $W^\pm +Z$ see below paper dataset

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giacomomagni commented May 16, 2024

Regarding the Phenix measurement we might have a problem.
My understanding is that Phenix has measured $A_L$ in $W^\pm+Z$ process,
despite what they say in the paper title.
In particular I read from here:

Figure 3 shows the combined asymmetry for all of the
PHENIX data sets and published data from STAR [11].
The two data sets cannot be compared directly, because
PHENIX measures the asymmetry from W± +Z decays,
while the STAR result is solely from W± decays. The
comparison can be made through the curves, which account for the specifics of each measurement.

So the numbers that are provided in HepData are not exactly for the same quantity measured by Star.
You can then see a difference of the predictions for the two processes in Figure 3.

@Radonirinaunimi , @enocera do we have a code to produce sensible predictions also for Phenix ?
Do we neglect this difference and use the usual code?
If not, do we want to have them implemented for the future anyway?

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Radonirinaunimi commented May 16, 2024

Unfortunately, we cannot yet use the mcfm-pol to produce predictions for $Z$ boson production. In principle, that should be doable given that the only difference between the W and Z are the beam functions to which expressions are available here (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.05457.pdf) for the latter. But I don't think this will be for NNPDFpol2.0 (?)

That being said, the differences between $W+Z$ and $Z$ seem to be significant for large-pseudorapidities. So maybe we can still use the same codes for $|\eta| < 0.35$.

@giacomomagni giacomomagni changed the title Polarized STAR and PHENIX DY datasets Polarized STAR and PHENIX W^\pm datasets May 16, 2024
@giacomomagni giacomomagni changed the title Polarized STAR and PHENIX W^\pm datasets Polarized STAR and PHENIX $W^\pm$ datasets May 16, 2024
@giacomomagni giacomomagni changed the title Polarized STAR and PHENIX $W^\pm$ datasets Polarized STAR and PHENIX A_L W May 16, 2024
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To allow for these asymmetries to have negative pseudodata.

giacomomagni and others added 2 commits June 10, 2024 09:13
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Looking here:

https://agenda.infn.it/event/38132/contributions/234387/attachments/120751/175847/Trieste-wv.pdf

It seems that our friends do include the 3 datapoints from PHENIX as well in their $A_L$ ($W^+$) datasets...

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Looking here:

https://agenda.infn.it/event/38132/contributions/234387/attachments/120751/175847/Trieste-wv.pdf

It seems that our friends do include the 3 datapoints from PHENIX as well in their AL (W+) datasets...

Interesting! I am curious to know how do they do then? Maybe they just don't care about the distinction $W^\pm$ vs $W^\pm \otimes Z$...

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