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Summary

Fixes issue where light groups don't adapt when child lights are turned on by an automation (e.g., motion sensor).

What Happened (from user's debug logs)

The user reported that their bedroom lights turned on red (previous color from a scene) instead of being adapted by Adaptive Lighting when a motion sensor triggered them.

Timeline from debug logs:

13:49:58.813  light.turn_off('light.bedroom_lights') with context 01KET2ZVMX4WWB95GX2XTDBW8A
13:49:59.117  State change ON→OFF for bedroom_lights with context 01KET2ZVMX4WWB95GX2XTDBW8A
13:50:00.534  light.turn_on('night_lights', 'ceiling_lights') with context 01KET2ZXANFR7KSPP60WVMPK8H
13:50:00.807  State change OFF→ON for bedroom_lights with context 01KET2ZVMX4WWB95GX2XTDBW8A  ← REUSED!
13:50:00.807  "This is probably a false positive" → Adaptation CANCELLED

The problem: When the motion sensor turned on the child lights (night_lights, ceiling_lights), the parent group (bedroom_lights) also turned on as a side effect. But Home Assistant reused the old turn_off context ID for the parent's state change.

The just_turned_off() function saw matching context IDs and incorrectly assumed this was a "polling artifact" (HA briefly reporting ON during a turn_off transition), so it cancelled adaptation.

Root Cause

# OLD CODE in just_turned_off():
if off_to_on_event.context.id == on_to_off_event.context.id:
    _LOGGER.debug("This is probably a false positive.")
    return True  # ← Blocks adaptation!

This check was designed to catch polling artifacts, but it didn't account for light groups where HA reuses context IDs.

Fix

Use causality-based detection instead of just context ID matching:

  1. Enhanced _off_to_on_state_event_is_from_turn_on() to check if any member light of a group has a turn_on_event that happened after the group's on→off event:
# NEW CODE:
if state is not None and _is_light_group(state):
    member_lights = state.attributes.get("entity_id", [])
    for member in member_lights:
        member_turn_on = self.turn_on_event.get(member)
        if member_turn_on is not None:
            if member_turn_on.time_fired > on_to_off_event.time_fired:
                _LOGGER.debug(
                    "Light group '%s' turned on because member '%s' was turned on",
                    entity_id, member,
                )
                return True  # ← This is a valid turn-on, not a polling artifact!
  1. Restructured just_turned_off() to check for turn_on events BEFORE checking for matching context IDs. Only treat matching context IDs as a false positive if no turn_on event explains the state change.

Why This is Robust

Old Approach (fragile) New Approach (causality-based)
Magic time threshold Actual causal relationship
Fails with different timing Works regardless of timing
No explanation in logs Clear log: "group turned on because member X was turned on"

Expected Behavior After Fix

With the user's scenario:

  1. Motion sensor turns on child lights (night_lights, ceiling_lights)
  2. turn_on_event is stored for these members
  3. Parent group (bedroom_lights) turns on as side effect
  4. _off_to_on_state_event_is_from_turn_on() checks group members
  5. Finds turn_on_event for night_lights that happened after group's turn_off
  6. Returns Truejust_turned_off() returns FalseAdaptation proceeds!

Test Plan

  • Added test_just_turned_off_context_reuse_with_light_groups - verifies light group members' turn_on events are detected
  • Added test_just_turned_off_polling_artifact_still_detected - verifies polling artifacts are still correctly blocked
  • CI tests pass

Fixes #1378

## Summary

When a parent light group is turned off and then child lights are turned
on by an automation (e.g., motion sensor), Home Assistant may reuse the
old turn_off context ID for the parent group's state change. This caused
`just_turned_off()` to incorrectly treat the group's turn-on as a "false
positive" polling artifact, blocking adaptation.

## Root Cause

The `just_turned_off()` function checked if the off→on context ID matched
the on→off context ID. If they matched, it assumed this was a polling
artifact (HA briefly seeing the light as ON during a turn_off transition)
and cancelled adaptation.

However, for light groups, HA reuses the context ID when the parent group
turns on as a side effect of child lights turning on. This is a valid
turn-on that should be adapted.

## Fix

Use causality-based detection instead of just context ID matching:

1. Enhanced `_off_to_on_state_event_is_from_turn_on()` to check if any
   member light of a group has a `turn_on_event` that happened after the
   group's on→off event. If so, the member's turn_on explains why the
   group turned on.

2. Restructured `just_turned_off()` to check for turn_on events BEFORE
   checking for matching context IDs. Only treat matching context IDs
   as a false positive if no turn_on event explains the state change.

## Why This is Robust

| Old Approach | New Approach |
|--------------|--------------|
| Magic 1-second threshold | Actual causal relationship |
| Fails with different timing | Works regardless of timing |
| No explanation in logs | Clear log: "group turned on because member X was turned on" |

## Test Plan

- [x] Added test for light group context reuse scenario
- [x] Added test to verify polling artifacts are still detected
…_turn_on

The original test failed because HA light groups are expanded - the group
itself is removed from self.lights and replaced with member lights. This
means on_to_off_event is never stored for the group.

Rewrote tests to directly test _off_to_on_state_event_is_from_turn_on():
- test_off_to_on_state_event_is_from_turn_on_detects_group_members
- test_off_to_on_state_event_is_from_turn_on_respects_timing
- test_just_turned_off_polling_artifact_still_detected (negative case)
The previous commit incorrectly moved the _off_to_on_state_event_is_from_turn_on
check to before the context ID match check, which broke test_separate_turn_on_commands.

The original order must be:
1. Check on_to_off_event is None → return False
2. Check context IDs match → return True (polling artifact)
3. Get transition info
4. Check _off_to_on_state_event_is_from_turn_on → return False

This commit restores that order while keeping the light group detection
logic in _off_to_on_state_event_is_from_turn_on.
Extract the light group turn-on detection logic into
_member_turn_on_explains_group_turn_on() for better clarity:

- Each method now has a single responsibility
- The helper method has a descriptive name and docstring
- The code flow is easier to follow

This is a refactoring of the fix for issue #1378 with no behavior changes.
Add test_just_turned_off_context_reuse_with_light_groups which tests
the actual scenario described in issue #1378:

1. A light group is turned off (stores on_to_off_event with context A)
2. A member light is turned on by automation (stores turn_on_event)
3. The group turns back on as a side effect
4. HA reuses the turn_off context (off_to_on_event has context A!)
5. just_turned_off() is called - should return False (allow adaptation)

This test currently FAILS because the context ID match check at line
2804 returns True early, blocking adaptation before the member turn_on
check at line 2824 is reached.

The existing tests only test _off_to_on_state_event_is_from_turn_on()
directly, bypassing just_turned_off(), which is why they pass despite
the ordering issue.

Refs: #1378
The context ID match check at line 2804 was returning True (blocking
adaptation) before checking if a member light's turn_on event explained
the group's turn-on. This caused the issue where light groups wouldn't
adapt when a member was turned on by automation.

The fix adds a check for _member_turn_on_explains_group_turn_on() inside
the context ID match block. If a member's turn_on event happened after
the group's on→off event, the group's turn-on is legitimate and not a
polling artifact, so we return False (allow adaptation).

This is a more targeted fix than reordering the checks, which broke
test_separate_turn_on_commands. By keeping the context ID check first
but adding the member check inside it, we:
1. Preserve the original polling artifact detection for non-groups
2. Properly handle light groups where HA reuses context IDs

Fixes: #1378
Update the comment at line 2832 to accurately reflect that this check
handles light groups when context IDs don't match. The primary fix for
#1378 (matching context IDs) is handled earlier in the context ID
match block.
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Deep Dive Analysis: Light Group Context Behavior

After extensive investigation of the HA core source code (including spawning a separate agent to independently verify claims), I've identified the root cause of this issue.


Executive Summary

This is NOT a bug in Home Assistant Core. The observed behavior is expected when lights are controlled via integrations (like Zigbee2MQTT) that update state directly rather than going through HA's service handler.

The context "reuse" happens because:

  1. When a group turns off, it propagates its context (A) to all members
  2. Members cache this context for 5 seconds (CONTEXT_RECENT_TIME_SECONDS in entity.py:82)
  3. When an integration updates member state directly (not via light.turn_on service), the cached context is used
  4. The group inherits this cached context from the member's state change event

The Observed Behavior

From the debug logs:

13:49:58.813  light.turn_off('light.bedroom_lights') with context A
13:49:59.117  State change ON→OFF for bedroom_lights with context A
13:50:00.534  light.turn_on('night_lights', 'ceiling_lights') with context B
13:50:00.807  State change OFF→ON for bedroom_lights with context A  ← WHY?
13:50:00.807  "This is probably a false positive" → Adaptation CANCELLED

The question: Why does bedroom_lights get context A instead of context B when it turns back on?


Verified Code Claims

All claims verified against HA core source with exact line numbers:

Claim Status Location
GroupEntity listener calls async_set_context(event.context) ✅ CONFIRMED entity.py:85
async_write_ha_state uses self._context ✅ CONFIRMED entity.py:1233
Service calls set context via _handle_entity_call ✅ CONFIRMED service.py:888
LightGroup forwards with self._context ✅ CONFIRMED light.py:187, 202

Detailed Code Flow Analysis

Phase 1: Group Turn Off (Context A Propagates to Members)

Timeline: 13:49:58.813 - light.turn_off('bedroom_lights') with context A

Step 1: Service handler sets group context

# service.py:888
entity.async_set_context(context)  # bedroom_lights._context = A

Step 2: Group forwards turn_off to members with its context

# light.py:190-203
async def async_turn_off(self, **kwargs: Any) -> None:
    await self.hass.services.async_call(
        light.DOMAIN,
        SERVICE_TURN_OFF,
        data,
        blocking=True,
        context=self._context,  # Forwards context A to members!
    )

Step 3: Each member receives and caches context A

# service.py:888 (called for each member)
entity.async_set_context(context)  # night_lights._context = A
                                   # ceiling_lights._context = A

Result: All member entities now have _context = A cached (valid for 5 seconds).


Phase 2: Motion Sensor Triggers Member (Context A Persists)

Timeline: 13:50:00.534 - Motion sensor triggers (~1.4 seconds later)

Critical insight: When a motion sensor triggers via Zigbee2MQTT (or similar integration), it typically:

  1. Sends a command directly to the Zigbee device
  2. The integration receives the state update from the device
  3. The integration calls async_write_ha_state() directly - NOT through light.turn_on service

Step 1: Integration updates member state directly

# Inside the integration (e.g., Zigbee2MQTT)
self._attr_is_on = True
self.async_write_ha_state()  # Uses cached self._context!

Step 2: Member writes state with cached context A

# entity.py:1220-1236
if (
    self._context_set is not None
    and time_now - self._context_set > CONTEXT_RECENT_TIME_SECONDS  # 5 seconds
):
    self._context = None  # Would clear, but only ~1.4 seconds passed!

# Context A is still valid:
self.hass.states.async_set_internal(..., self._context, ...)  # Still context A!

Step 3: State change event fires with context A


Phase 3: Group Reacts to Member State Change

Timeline: 13:50:00.807 - Group state changes OFF→ON with context A

Step 1: Group listener receives member's state change event

# entity.py:80-89
@callback
def async_state_changed_listener(event):
    self.async_set_context(event.context)  # event.context = A (from member!)
    self.async_defer_or_update_ha_state()

Step 2: Group writes state with context A (inherited from member)

Result: Group's OFF→ON state change has context A, matching the earlier ON→OFF.


The Complete Scenario

User: "Turn off bedroom lights" (via HA)
  → HA creates context A
  → Group turns off with context A
  → Members turn off with context A (forwarded from group)
  → Members cache context A

[1.4 seconds later]

Motion sensor: Detects motion
  → Zigbee2MQTT sends 'on' command to physical light
  → Physical light turns on
  → Zigbee2MQTT receives state update from device
  → Zigbee2MQTT calls async_write_ha_state() [NO new context created]
  → Member uses cached context A (still valid, < 5 seconds)
  → Group listener sees member state change with context A
  → Group turns on with context A

Adaptive Lighting: Sees context A == context A
  → "This is probably a false positive" (polling artifact check)
  → Blocks adaptation ❌

Why This Is NOT a Bug in HA

The behavior is by design:

  1. Context caching - Allows related operations to share context for traceability
  2. Context propagation through groups - When a group operates on members, it passes its context so all related state changes can be traced back
  3. Direct state updates - Integrations that receive state from physical devices update state directly without creating new contexts (efficient and correct)
  4. 5-second TTL - Balances context preservation with eventual cleanup

Why the AL Fix is Correct

The fix uses causality-based detection instead of context ID matching:

def _member_turn_on_explains_group_turn_on(self, entity_id: str) -> bool:
    for member in member_lights:
        member_turn_on = self.turn_on_event.get(member)
        if member_turn_on is not None:
            if member_turn_on.time_fired > on_to_off_event.time_fired:
                return True  # Member turn_on explains group turn_on
    return False

This works because:

  1. AL tracks turn_on_event for member lights (groups are expanded)
  2. Timestamp comparison is reliable regardless of context IDs
  3. If a member was turned on after the group was turned off, the group's turn-on is legitimate

Clarification Needed

@GHM3434 - Before merging, I'd like to confirm a few things:

  1. Are your entities HA Light Groups? (created in Helpers → Create Helper → Group)

    • Or are they Zigbee2MQTT groups / integration-level groups?
  2. Does your automation use light.turn_on service?

    action:
      - service: light.turn_on
        target:
          entity_id: light.kitchen_light

    The fix requires AL to capture the turn_on_event for member lights. If your automation triggers lights through a different method (direct Zigbee group command, etc.), we may need to adjust the approach.

  3. What is the relationship between your groups? Is bedroom_lights a "group of groups" containing night_lights and ceiling_lights?


Summary

Question Answer
Is this a bug in HA Core? No - expected behavior for direct state updates
Why does context A persist? Members cache context from group turn_off (5 second TTL)
Why isn't context B used? Integration updates state directly, not via service call
Is the AL fix correct? Yes - causality-based detection is robust
Should we report to HA? No - working as designed

References

  • HA Core files analyzed: group/entity.py, group/light.py, helpers/entity.py, helpers/service.py, core.py
  • Context TTL constant: CONTEXT_RECENT_TIME_SECONDS = 5 at entity.py:82
  • Full investigation report: REPORT.md in repo

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GHM3434 commented Jan 15, 2026

@basnijholt

Clarification Needed
@GHM3434 - Before merging, I'd like to confirm a few things:

Are your entities HA Light Groups? (created in Helpers → Create Helper → Group)

  • This is correct and I would like to add: that the HA light groups added the Zigbee2MQTT groups. And the Zigbee2MQTT groups have the individual Zigbee2MQTT devices added into them. I was under the impression this was the proper or optimal way to do lights.

Or are they Zigbee2MQTT groups / integration-level groups?

  • In home assistant I almost exclusively use the home assistant light groups I created (which have the Zigbee2MQTT group(s) added to it).

Does your automation use light.turn_on service?

This is an example of my kitchen automation yaml:

alias: FL1 Kitchen light automation
description: ""
triggers:

  • entity_id:
    • binary_sensor.1_kitchen_night_light_sensor_2mqdev_occupancy
      from:
    • "off"
      to:
    • "on"
      id: occupancy_on
      trigger: state
  • entity_id:
    • binary_sensor.1_kitchen_night_light_sensor_2mqdev_occupancy
      from:
    • "on"
      to:
    • "off"
      id: occupancy_cleared_triggerid
      trigger: state
      for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 5
      seconds: 0
  • event: sunset
    trigger: sun
  • entity_id:
    • sensor.1_kitchen_night_light_sensor_2mqdev_illuminance
      below: 8
      trigger: numeric_state
  • trigger: state
    entity_id:
    • light.ceiling_halg
      to:
    • "off"
      id: light_changed_to_off_triggerid
      enabled: true
      conditions:
  • condition: or
    conditions:
    • condition: and
      conditions:
      • condition: state
        entity_id: binary_sensor.1_kitchen_night_light_sensor_2mqdev_occupancy
        state:
        • "off"
      • condition: state
        entity_id: input_boolean.kitchen_automation_boolean
        state:
        • "on"
    • condition: and
      conditions:
      • condition: state
        state:
        • "off"
          entity_id: light.ceiling_halg
      • condition: state
        entity_id: binary_sensor.1_kitchen_night_light_sensor_2mqdev_occupancy
        state:
        • "on"
      • condition: or
        conditions:
        • condition: numeric_state
          entity_id: sensor.1_kitchen_night_light_sensor_2mqdev_illuminance
          below: 8
        • condition: sun
          after: sunset
          before: sunrise
          actions:
  • if:
    • condition: trigger
      id:
      • occupancy_cleared_triggerid
      • light_changed_to_off_triggerid
        then:
    • action: light.turn_off
      target:
      entity_id:
      - light.ceiling_halg
      - light.night_lights_halg
      data:
      transition: 0
    • target:
      entity_id:
      - input_boolean.kitchen_automation_boolean
      action: input_boolean.turn_off
      data: {}
      else:
    • action: light.turn_on
      target:
      entity_id:
      - light.ceiling_halg
      - light.night_lights_halg
      data: {}
    • target:
      entity_id:
      - input_boolean.kitchen_automation_boolean
      action: input_boolean.turn_on
      data: {}
      mode: queued
      max_exceeded: silent

action:

  • service: light.turn_on
    target:
    entity_id: light.kitchen_light
    The fix requires AL to capture the turn_on_event for member lights. If your automation triggers lights through a different method (direct Zigbee group command, etc.), we may need to adjust the approach.

What is the relationship between your groups? Is bedroom_lights a "group of groups" containing night_lights and ceiling_lights?

  • These are my current light groups in home assistant:
image
  • For example, the "All halg" for Kitchen will have a Zigbee2MQTT group called "1:Kitchen all 2mqlg" and in the that Zigbee2MQTT group, it will have all the individual Zigbee2MQTT lights for the kitchen added.
  • If this incorrect, not optimal or something I am happy to do this better! Maybe in the home assistant light groups, in the "All" groups, I should just add the individual Zigbee2MQTT groups (instead of creating and adding an "All" Zigbee2MQTT group)? Maybe this is causing an issue, I'm going to try this right now

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GHM3434 commented Jan 15, 2026

@basnijholt omg i think this was an issue on my part (copied from comment above that I made):

What is the relationship between your groups? Is bedroom_lights a "group of groups" containing night_lights and ceiling_lights?

  • These are my current light groups in home assistant:
image
  • For example, the "All halg" for Kitchen will have a Zigbee2MQTT group called "1:Kitchen all 2mqlg" and in the that Zigbee2MQTT group, it will have all the individual Zigbee2MQTT lights for the kitchen added.
  • If this incorrect, not optimal or something I am happy to do this better! Maybe in the home assistant light groups, in the "All" groups, I should just add the individual Zigbee2MQTT groups (instead of creating and adding an "All" Zigbee2MQTT group)? Maybe this is causing an issue, I'm going to try this right now

I am still testing but this time, when the automation triggered, the lights turned red but then immediately turned to the correct color and brightness.

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GHM3434 commented Jan 16, 2026

Hello @basnijholt  This is good news thank you for confirming and clarifying! For some reason I received an e-mail with your response but I can't find the comment anywhere on github...

After you gave the solution to stop the light from flashing the old state right when turning on, I went to check my AL settings. Weirdly, the intercept settings were already enabled and it still appears to do the short flash at the beginning.

image

Question: Are You Testing the PR Branch?
• I am still currently on the PR Branch even after restructuring my groups.

Understanding Your Group Structure: To make sure the fix covers your setup, can you confirm what's in your Adaptive Lighting configuration?
• In my AL configurations I currently have my home assistant "ALL" light groups. I deleted all the "ALL" Zigbee2MQTT groups now. This also brings another question to me now. Should my "All" HA light groups have the Zigbee2MQTT groups added to them or the equivalent HA light groups? (For example, should Kitchen ceiling lights 2MQLG or Kitchen ceiling lights HALG be added to the "All" Kitchen HALG?

• Currently I added the Zigbe2MQTT groups to the "ALL" HA light groups without thinking. Is this bad?

 
image

Here is example of my ALL kitchen HA light group's member (currently):

image

Thank you

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GHM3434 commented Jan 16, 2026

@basnijholt Hi could you confirm you got my last response? I think I may be having issues with comments...and worried you didnt get my response. Thank you

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@GHM3434 Thanks, I see your responses now!

The Core Issue

You have intercept enabled but still see the flash - this is expected with your current setup. Here's why:

Your AL config has "All" HA Light Groups containing Z2M groups:

AL tracks: "All Kitchen halg"
  └── Z2M Group ("1:Kitchen ceiling 2mqlg")
        └── Individual Zigbee lights

Intercept can't help here because:

  1. AL intercepts light.turn_on for the Z2M group
  2. But Z2M sends Zigbee commands directly to physical lights - bypassing HA
  3. AL never sees service calls for individual lights, only state changes
  4. The lights turn on with their cached state before AL can react

Your Question Answered

Should my "All" HA light groups have the Zigbee2MQTT groups added to them or the equivalent HA light groups?

Neither. For AL to work properly (including intercept), your HA Light Groups should contain individual lights directly:

HA Light Group ("All Kitchen halg")
  └── light.kitchen_ceiling_1
  └── light.kitchen_ceiling_2
  └── light.kitchen_night_light_1
  └── ...

This way:

  • AL sees all light.turn_on service calls
  • Intercept can inject correct brightness/color before lights turn on
  • No Z2M group in the middle absorbing the calls

The Problem with Z2M Groups + AL

When Z2M groups are in the chain:

  1. Blind spot: Z2M bypasses HA service layer → AL can't intercept
  2. Cascade effect: Turning on one light makes the Z2M group "on" → AL adapts entire group

Recommendation

Remove Z2M groups from your HA Light Groups and add individual lights directly. You can keep Z2M groups for other purposes, just don't put them in the HA groups that AL tracks.

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GHM3434 commented Jan 17, 2026

@GHM3434 Thanks, I see your responses now!

The Core Issue

You have intercept enabled but still see the flash - this is expected with your current setup. Here's why:

Your AL config has "All" HA Light Groups containing Z2M groups:

AL tracks: "All Kitchen halg"
  └── Z2M Group ("1:Kitchen ceiling 2mqlg")
        └── Individual Zigbee lights

Intercept can't help here because:

  1. AL intercepts light.turn_on for the Z2M group
  2. But Z2M sends Zigbee commands directly to physical lights - bypassing HA
  3. AL never sees service calls for individual lights, only state changes
  4. The lights turn on with their cached state before AL can react

Your Question Answered

Should my "All" HA light groups have the Zigbee2MQTT groups added to them or the equivalent HA light groups?

Neither. For AL to work properly (including intercept), your HA Light Groups should contain individual lights directly:

HA Light Group ("All Kitchen halg")
  └── light.kitchen_ceiling_1
  └── light.kitchen_ceiling_2
  └── light.kitchen_night_light_1
  └── ...

This way:

  • AL sees all light.turn_on service calls
  • Intercept can inject correct brightness/color before lights turn on
  • No Z2M group in the middle absorbing the calls

The Problem with Z2M Groups + AL

When Z2M groups are in the chain:

  1. Blind spot: Z2M bypasses HA service layer → AL can't intercept
  2. Cascade effect: Turning on one light makes the Z2M group "on" → AL adapts entire group

Recommendation

Remove Z2M groups from your HA Light Groups and add individual lights directly. You can keep Z2M groups for other purposes, just don't put them in the HA groups that AL tracks.

Thank goodness comments are working again!

Okay, I will add individual Zigbee2MQTT "device" lights to the AL Home assistant light groups instead of the Zigbee2MQTT groups. I always like improving things! I was under the impression that Zigbee2MQTT groups were the optimal way to setup lights. I forget where I read it or what the reason was. I think it had something to do with network traffic causing issues or something.

Questions:

  • Should I use Zigbee2MQTT devices for all my HA light groups even those not being specifically added as an entity to adaptive lighting?

  • Should I be using the home assistant light groups (with Zigbee2MQTT devices added) for EVERYTHING? Such as automations and manual light buttons on home assistant app/browser (not just for adaptive lighting)?

  • Are there any big cons to using Zigbee2MQTT devices in HA light groups versus HA light groups that use Zigbee2MQTT groups?

Thank you

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