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Update layers for Bavaria #2438
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There is still an ongoing discussion as to whether we are even allowed to use these sources at all |
Hi, There is an error in this file: From min_zoom=7 to 17 the images are CC-BY 4.0. From 18 to 22 the image changes to a CC BY ND 4.0 image From ( CC BY 4.0 ) To ( CC BY-ND 4.0 ) regards |
The situation is simply so confusing that I can't blame anyone for wrongly assuming that we are allowed to use the sources, especially as there is even a document from the rights holder stating that the sources may be used. I'm not a lawyer and would have interpreted it the same way as @arch0345 but obviously others (who are more knowledgeable than me) have doubts that we are allowed to use the sources and as long as this is not conclusively clarified I would be careful about using them. |
Thanks for pointing that out, I wasn't aware of this forum thread. After taking a quick look, it seems that besides CC BY ND sources being embedded at high zooms (which got resolved via #2456), the confirmation linked in the Wiki doesn't address the second reason for incompatibility listed in https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ For this reason, I agree that further clarification from Bayerische Vermessungsverwaltung is needed for this to stay in ELI. I plan on reverting this PR unless if someone else is interested in contacting the data owners. Some other notes
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I've reverted this PR in #2461. Unfortunately it looks like the DOP80 WMS endpoint has since been decommissioned (it says June but it was working up until a few weeks ago) so I wasn't able to add this back I've created a new PR (#2462) that will add these layers back |
hi @arch0345 , why revert the change? I think that is exaggerated because if you say this letter [1] is not enough. Then not only Bavaria will have to remove aerial photographs but almost all German ones. I cannot say what the situation is like in the rest of the world or whether all the documents are there. The wiki says what should be included in the letter [2], and in most cases it wasn't done that way. Unless the license ( CC0 )[3] is as free as in "NRW". [1] - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/b/bc/20230526_Nutzung_der_OpenData-Produkte_der_Bayer._Vermessungsverwaltung.pdf |
I understand your frustration, this situation is very confusing for me as someone with no legal expertise. However based on what I saw on the forum thread, it looks like there hasn't really been a consensus formed on whether the email uploaded on the Wiki is sufficient. As a former member of the LWG mentioned, it's disputed whether tracing features from aerial imagery counts as a derived work. ELI seems to stay on the more legally safe side, so getting the waiver Simon linked to signed would help clear things up. If you have any concerns about other imagery in this index, please let me know and I'll try to consult with the LWG. |
Replaces 80cm orthophoto with 20cm version (both use the same source)
Also adds the following layers:
These layers are licensed under CC BY 4.0, however a representative from Bayerischen Vermessungsverwaltung stated that listing them on the Contributors page is sufficient for attribution so this data is approved to be used for OSM.
Closes #2437